Quitting City

[dario2739]

Okay calm down. You've proved you've got the biggest cock!

Whilst i won't argue with that, it's not about that - As somebody else has already said, if you can quit supporting any team you weren't truly a fan in the first place!

[Cocacolajojo1]

Eh? Why did you shake your head? This is a great thread, everyone is singing combaya together and loving city.

I never said I was thinking about quitting City, I was just curious about other people's experiences.

Even Hornby quit Arsenal for a few years but he seems to be as hardcore as they come so I actually don't think there's any shame if anyone's ever contemplated it or done it. Piccs seems to have thought about it a couple of times, albeit very briefly, but I can't imagine many, if any, who are more dedicated to this club.

I'm going to assume you were unlucky when you thought what you were going to post in this thread.

I considered not renewing my season ticket once. Part of the reason I didn't was knowing I would be pacing round the house waiting for the ceefax screen to change and listening to Brian Clarke's shit commentary on the radio.
Or that stupid "it's a goalllll" or "ohhhhhh no" thing Piccadilly Radio used to do. Pure panic until you heard Bury had conceded a fourth at Port Vale.
I can remember many times walking away from the back of the Kippax after another inept 0-1 to some no mark team thinking "I wish I didn't care" But I do, it's why it's a life sentence.

Exactly, and you're as dedicated as they come. It doesn't make you less of a fan though for sometimes wishing that you didn't care or that you once in a lifetime thought about not renewing your season ticket. Actually, I think it makes your support deeper that you've questioned it but have still kept going. And it makes for good stories. Thank you for sharing.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I didn't think it was a conscious choice to support a particular football club and I've never had a thought about quitting City.

I have thought about quitting forums though because I'm often appalled by the shit attitude of some posters towards other City fans and those offensive posters are quite often amongst the most regular posters. Is it that they're such shit-heads that they don't have real mates so must live in the virtual world of the forum where they can mouth off without getting the smack in the gob response they'd get in any real scenario?
The new arrogance is also perplexing - all that small club attitude shit about 'new fans wouldn't know what it's like' - and from longstanding jaded supporters too - total bollox of course as football support is more akin to love than any other emotion and nothing burns brighter than new love does it?

Whats so fuckign arrogant about stating how would a newish fan know what its like to be demoted twice, playing against Maclesfield town on a rainy fucking day ? Im more perplexed how cunts like you are so baffled by a comment like this.

[Herb]

I didn't think it was a conscious choice to support a particular football club and I've never had a thought about quitting City.

I have thought about quitting forums though because I'm often appalled by the shit attitude of some posters towards other City fans and those offensive posters are quite often amongst the most regular posters. Is it that they're such shit-heads that they don't have real mates so must live in the virtual world of the forum where they can mouth off without getting the smack in the gob response they'd get in any real scenario?
The new arrogance is also perplexing - all that small club attitude shit about 'new fans wouldn't know what it's like' - and from longstanding jaded supporters too - total bollox of course as football support is more akin to love than any other emotion and nothing burns brighter than new love does it?

Whats so fuckign arrogant about stating how would a newish fan know what its like to be demoted twice, playing against Maclesfield town on a rainy fucking day ? Im more perplexed how cunts like you are so baffled by a comment like this.

Carl, I bet life's perplexing to you in general isn't it?

If you check carefully you'll see that I didn't write anything about "a newish fan knowing what its like to be demoted twice, playing against Maclesfield town on a rainy fucking day". That was your imagination taking over and putting the experience that you think makes you a better man than anyone else, into the thread in a 'look at me I'm the loyalest' sort of way.
And anyhow, yes, it is arrogant to presume that your love for a club is greater in any respect to another person's and I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you about who was anywhere because it simply doesn't matter does it.

So no I wasn't baffled - you were confused.

Oh, and I'm not going to explain what a cunt is to you because that would be condescending and I'll bet that you're sick of people being condescending towards you all the time aren't you?
I suggest that you go look it up on google - you might even find yourself attracted to one once you know what it is.

[Alioune DVToure]

I didn't think it was a conscious choice to support a particular football club and I've never had a thought about quitting City.

I have thought about quitting forums though because I'm often appalled by the shit attitude of some posters towards other City fans and those offensive posters are quite often amongst the most regular posters. Is it that they're such shit-heads that they don't have real mates so must live in the virtual world of the forum where they can mouth off without getting the smack in the gob response they'd get in any real scenario?
The new arrogance is also perplexing - all that small club attitude shit about 'new fans wouldn't know what it's like' - and from longstanding jaded supporters too - total bollox of course as football support is more akin to love than any other emotion and nothing burns brighter than new love does it?

Whats so fuckign arrogant about stating how would a newish fan know what its like to be demoted twice, playing against Maclesfield town on a rainy fucking day ? Im more perplexed how cunts like you are so baffled by a comment like this.

Carl, I bet life's perplexing to you in general isn't it?

If you check carefully you'll see that I didn't write anything about "a newish fan knowing what its like to be demoted twice, playing against Maclesfield town on a rainy fucking day". That was your imagination taking over and putting the experience that you think makes you a better man than anyone else, into the thread in a 'look at me I'm the loyalest' sort of way.
And anyhow, yes, it is arrogant to presume that your love for a club is greater in any respect to another person's and I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you about who was anywhere because it simply doesn't matter does it.

So no I wasn't baffled - you were confused.

Oh, and I'm not going to explain what a cunt is to you because that would be condescending and I'll bet that you're sick of people being condescending towards you all the time aren't you?
I suggest that you go look it up on google - you might even find yourself attracted to one once you know what it is.

The problem is when newcomer, in it for the good times-types come along and start preaching to the fans who've put the hours in and have the dirt under their fingernails to prove it.

You seem like a strange fellow. You've a lot to say and yet disclose next to nothing; I remember reading in your introductory post that you were an old-timer (from Yorkshire?) and yet you write like an American and use American terms ('math', 'shit-head'). You also seem to have a major bee in your bonnet about the old vs. new fans thing. I feel like half your posts are on this subject, or something closely related.

Not having a go, just find it/you interesting!

[Cocacolajojo1]

The problem is when newcomer, in it for the good times-types come along and start preaching to the fans who've put the hours in and have the dirt under their fingernails to prove it.

Has that happened to you often? Just asking because I haven't seen much of that around here nor amongst cityfans in Sweden. Well, the kids who are like 8-10-12 have some different outlook on what City should be able to do and not, granted, but otherwise I don't see that. That much anyway.

[Alioune DVToure]

The problem is when newcomer, in it for the good times-types come along and start preaching to the fans who've put the hours in and have the dirt under their fingernails to prove it.

Has that happened to you often? Just asking because I haven't seen much of that around here nor amongst cityfans in Sweden. Well, the kids who are like 8-10-12 have some different outlook on what City should be able to do and not, granted, but otherwise I don't see that. That much anyway.

Only on occasion, but I'm a happy-clapper of the highest order. Still, I find it distasteful when the likes of Piccs, frequently wrong miserable cunt though he is, gets called a rag by someone for whom City is a second team. That's absurd to me. But let's not get back into that.

[Goaters 103]

I didn't think it was a conscious choice to support a particular football club and I've never had a thought about quitting City.

I have thought about quitting forums though because I'm often appalled by the shit attitude of some posters towards other City fans and those offensive posters are quite often amongst the most regular posters. Is it that they're such shit-heads that they don't have real mates so must live in the virtual world of the forum where they can mouth off without getting the smack in the gob response they'd get in any real scenario?
The new arrogance is also perplexing - all that small club attitude shit about 'new fans wouldn't know what it's like' - and from longstanding jaded supporters too - total bollox of course as football support is more akin to love than any other emotion and nothing burns brighter than new love does it?

Whats so fuckign arrogant about stating how would a newish fan know what its like to be demoted twice, playing against Maclesfield town on a rainy fucking day ? Im more perplexed how cunts like you are so baffled by a comment like this.

Carl, I bet life's perplexing to you in general isn't it?

If you check carefully you'll see that I didn't write anything about "a newish fan knowing what its like to be demoted twice, playing against Maclesfield town on a rainy fucking day". That was your imagination taking over and putting the experience that you think makes you a better man than anyone else, into the thread in a 'look at me I'm the loyalest' sort of way.
And anyhow, yes, it is arrogant to presume that your love for a club is greater in any respect to another person's and I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you about who was anywhere because it simply doesn't matter does it.

So no I wasn't baffled - you were confused.

Oh, and I'm not going to explain what a cunt is to you because that would be condescending and I'll bet that you're sick of people being condescending towards you all the time aren't you?
I suggest that you go look it up on google - you might even find yourself attracted to one once you know what it is.

The problem is when newcomer, in it for the good times-types come along and start preaching to the fans who've put the hours in and have the dirt under their fingernails to prove it.

You seem like a strange fellow. You've a lot to say and yet disclose next to nothing; I remember reading in your introductory post that you were an old-timer (from Yorkshire?) and yet you write like an American and use American terms ('math', 'shit-head'). You also seem to have a major bee in your bonnet about the old vs. new fans thing. I feel like half your posts are on this subject, or something closely related.

Not having a go, just find it/you interesting!

Hmm, I'd replace "interesting" with condescending if I'm honest. This isn't a look at me thread at all, far from it. It's a very odd thread, with a subject matter that doesn't belong on a City supporters forum.

[Herb]

The problem is when newcomer, in it for the good times-types come along and start preaching to the fans who've put the hours in and have the dirt under their fingernails to prove it.

You seem like a strange fellow. You've a lot to say and yet disclose next to nothing; I remember reading in your introductory post that you were an old-timer (from Yorkshire?) and yet you write like an American and use American terms ('math', 'shit-head'). You also seem to have a major bee in your bonnet about the old vs. new fans thing. I feel like half your posts are on this subject, or something closely related.

Not having a go, just find it/you interesting![/quote]

No that's fine - feel free to ask and I'll be happy to answer. I'm not an old timer as such - just past the fifty mark and from Manchester not Yorkshire. I was a Moston lad and I used to get a bus into town then one over to Maine Road every other Saturday in the days when it was regularly kicking off on the terraces.
One of the things I took pride in was that City fans were never racist, some teams had fans with a definite racist edge to them but not us, we were the team of the people and our terraces welcomed all races and creeds. We even had the cool cats looking after the younger fans when things got a bit dicey.
That's why I find it hard to accept racist bullying and bigoted language in the forums - it's not clever, it's not needed and it's just not us / just not City is it?
As far as putting in the hard work goes; I don't believe that going to watch us get beaten by Blackpool in the texaco cup, enjoying the mud bath hill at villa park on a rainy wednesday night or indeed going to any or all games ever made me or anyone else a better fan - we didn't do it for status of any kind - we did it to satisfy our own demons, not for a national service medal so let's get over it, forget about the shit under our fingernails and welcome every new fan wherever they're from without looking down our noses at anyone.

PS. I started going to games in the giddy heights of the late 60's so I suppose that must make me an in it for the good times type.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

The problem is when newcomer, in it for the good times-types come along and start preaching to the fans who've put the hours in and have the dirt under their fingernails to prove it.

You seem like a strange fellow. You've a lot to say and yet disclose next to nothing; I remember reading in your introductory post that you were an old-timer (from Yorkshire?) and yet you write like an American and use American terms ('math', 'shit-head'). You also seem to have a major bee in your bonnet about the old vs. new fans thing. I feel like half your posts are on this subject, or something closely related.

Not having a go, just find it/you interesting!

No that's fine - feel free to ask and I'll be happy to answer. I'm not an old timer as such - just past the fifty mark and from Manchester not Yorkshire. I was a Moston lad and I used to get a bus into town then one over to Maine Road every other Saturday in the days when it was regularly kicking off on the terraces.
One of the things I took pride in was that City fans were never racist, some teams had fans with a definite racist edge to them but not us, we were the team of the people and our terraces welcomed all races and creeds. We even had the cool cats looking after the younger fans when things got a bit dicey.
That's why I find it hard to accept racist bullying and bigoted language in the forums - it's not clever, it's not needed and it's just not us / just not City is it?
As far as putting in the hard work goes; I don't believe that going to watch us get beaten by Blackpool in the texaco cup, enjoying the mud bath hill at villa park on a rainy wednesday night or indeed going to any or all games ever made me or anyone else a better fan - we didn't do it for status of any kind - we did it to satisfy our own demons, not for a national service medal so let's get over it, forget about the shit under our fingernails and welcome every new fan wherever they're from without looking down our noses at anyone.

PS. I started going to games in the giddy heights of the late 60's so I suppose that must make me an in it for the good times type.[/QUOTE]

When did Villa have a mud bath hill? I'm not being accusative but I thought it had always been a decent ground by the standards of the day. I've been on a hill as you describe at Springfield Park though.
As it happens, yes it does matter about turning out at Macclesfiel when we were shit, (although Macc aint far away) Football crowds drop off as teams play shit football and drop down the leagues, but at City, our crowds went uo as we got shitter and collectively we can be proud of our turn outs in the third tier. And if you were one of those who stayed loyal through the shittest of times when other supposedly loyal fans deserted their team (e.g Newcastle or Leeds) then nobody can question your loyalty and you SUPPORTED your club when it was needed.
Newer supporters now have to put up with the accusations of 'gloryhunting' and it could be unfair that they do, but those older ones amongst us have proved our commitment to the cause. If we'd turned our backs en masse, the club might have gone under. So yes, it does matter.

Alain. I'm not miserable at all, I'm Mr Chuckles.
And if you stick with me kid, you'll learn stuff and won't go too far wrong.

[Herb]

When did Villa have a mud bath hill? I'm not being accusative but I thought it had always been a decent ground by the standards of the day. I've been on a hill as you describe at Springfield Park though.

You're right - I remember sliding down the hill in the mud then trying to thumb a lift home after the game (without luck), I must've been about 14 at the time and had wagged school to go to the midweek night match - springfield park it was if that matters but I don't think it does.

As it happens, yes it does matter about turning out at Macclesfiel when we were shit, (although Macc aint far away) Football crowds drop off as teams play shit football and drop down the leagues, but at City, our crowds went uo as we got shitter and collectively we can be proud of our turn outs in the third tier. And if you were one of those who stayed loyal through the shittest of times when other supposedly loyal fans deserted their team (e.g Newcastle or Leeds) then nobody can question your loyalty and you SUPPORTED your club when it was needed.

I don't think that it's in our gift to question anyone's loyalty for reasons on newness because how you feel about a cause is a personal matter that can't be measured.

Newer supporters now have to put up with the accusations of 'gloryhunting' and it could be unfair that they do, but those older ones amongst us have proved our commitment to the cause. If we'd turned our backs en masse, the club might have gone under. So yes, it does matter.

Consider Sheik Mansour , he's a relatively new supporter and he's probably put a smaller portion of his total life earnings into City than I have but that doesn't make me a better fan or more important to the good of the club - I just like to think that he and I are both City supporters and that we share that in common.

Alain. I'm not miserable at all, I'm Mr Chuckles.
And if you stick with me kid, you'll learn stuff and won't go too far wrong.[/quote]

[Wonderwall]

When did Villa have a mud bath hill? I'm not being accusative but I thought it had always been a decent ground by the standards of the day. I've been on a hill as you describe at Springfield Park though.

You're right - I remember sliding down the hill in the mud then trying to thumb a lift home after the game (without luck), I must've been about 14 at the time and had wagged school to go to the midweek night match - springfield park it was if that matters but I don't think it does.

As it happens, yes it does matter about turning out at Macclesfiel when we were shit, (although Macc aint far away) Football crowds drop off as teams play shit football and drop down the leagues, but at City, our crowds went uo as we got shitter and collectively we can be proud of our turn outs in the third tier. And if you were one of those who stayed loyal through the shittest of times when other supposedly loyal fans deserted their team (e.g Newcastle or Leeds) then nobody can question your loyalty and you SUPPORTED your club when it was needed.

I don't think that it's in our gift to question anyone's loyalty for reasons on newness because how you feel about a cause is a personal matter that can't be measured.

Newer supporters now have to put up with the accusations of 'gloryhunting' and it could be unfair that they do, but those older ones amongst us have proved our commitment to the cause. If we'd turned our backs en masse, the club might have gone under. So yes, it does matter.

Consider Sheik Mansour , he's a relatively new supporter and he's probably put a smaller portion of his total life earnings into City than I have but that doesn't make me a better fan or more important to the good of the club - I just like to think that he and I are both City supporters and that we share that in common.

Alain. I'm not miserable at all, I'm Mr Chuckles.
And if you stick with me kid, you'll learn stuff and won't go too far wrong.

Biggest mud bath I knew was Oldham. Up over my ankles at boundary park, getting battered at half time and the stand had no roof. Horrid place

[freshie]

Damn. I thought this was going to be a goodbye post by one of the members.

Anyway. I had a season ticket when Pearce was in charge but for the last few games of the season didn't bother going. Says a lot when I used to go full time when we were in Division 2. He nearly stopped me going.

If we'd signed Rooney a couple of seasons ago I would have packed football.

I was very close to not renewing the season after Pearce's last one as our manager - think it was the season where we went 12 home games without scoring. Luckily for me Shinawatra took over the club and appointed Sven which gave me hope that the next season couldn't possibly be anywhere as bad as Pearce's. And all this despite having a season ticket during our Chamionship years and League 1 season and never remotely considering stopping going then

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

When did Villa have a mud bath hill? I'm not being accusative but I thought it had always been a decent ground by the standards of the day. I've been on a hill as you describe at Springfield Park though.

You're right - I remember sliding down the hill in the mud then trying to thumb a lift home after the game (without luck), I must've been about 14 at the time and had wagged school to go to the midweek night match - springfield park it was if that matters but I don't think it does.

As it happens, yes it does matter about turning out at Macclesfiel when we were shit, (although Macc aint far away) Football crowds drop off as teams play shit football and drop down the leagues, but at City, our crowds went uo as we got shitter and collectively we can be proud of our turn outs in the third tier. And if you were one of those who stayed loyal through the shittest of times when other supposedly loyal fans deserted their team (e.g Newcastle or Leeds) then nobody can question your loyalty and you SUPPORTED your club when it was needed.

I don't think that it's in our gift to question anyone's loyalty for reasons on newness because how you feel about a cause is a personal matter that can't be measured.

Newer supporters now have to put up with the accusations of 'gloryhunting' and it could be unfair that they do, but those older ones amongst us have proved our commitment to the cause. If we'd turned our backs en masse, the club might have gone under. So yes, it does matter.

Consider Sheik Mansour , he's a relatively new supporter and he's probably put a smaller portion of his total life earnings into City than I have but that doesn't make me a better fan or more important to the good of the club - I just like to think that he and I are both City supporters and that we share that in common.

Alain. I'm not miserable at all, I'm Mr Chuckles.
And if you stick with me kid, you'll learn stuff and won't go too far wrong.

[/quote]
You don't fuck around, do you ;)

[carl_feedthegoat]

I didn't think it was a conscious choice to support a particular football club and I've never had a thought about quitting City.

I have thought about quitting forums though because I'm often appalled by the shit attitude of some posters towards other City fans and those offensive posters are quite often amongst the most regular posters. Is it that they're such shit-heads that they don't have real mates so must live in the virtual world of the forum where they can mouth off without getting the smack in the gob response they'd get in any real scenario?
The new arrogance is also perplexing - all that small club attitude shit about 'new fans wouldn't know what it's like' - and from longstanding jaded supporters too - total bollox of course as football support is more akin to love than any other emotion and nothing burns brighter than new love does it?

Whats so fuckign arrogant about stating how would a newish fan know what its like to be demoted twice, playing against Maclesfield town on a rainy fucking day ? Im more perplexed how cunts like you are so baffled by a comment like this.

Carl, I bet life's perplexing to you in general isn't it?

If you check carefully you'll see that I didn't write anything about "a newish fan knowing what its like to be demoted twice, playing against Maclesfield town on a rainy fucking day". That was your imagination taking over and putting the experience that you think makes you a better man than anyone else, into the thread in a 'look at me I'm the loyalest' sort of way.
And anyhow, yes, it is arrogant to presume that your love for a club is greater in any respect to another person's and I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you about who was anywhere because it simply doesn't matter does it.

So no I wasn't baffled - you were confused.

Oh, and I'm not going to explain what a cunt is to you because that would be condescending and I'll bet that you're sick of people being condescending towards you all the time aren't you?
I suggest that you go look it up on google - you might even find yourself attracted to one once you know what it is.

Is that the best you can come up with !! seriously ? you are just no fun Herbert , normally I like to joust with someone that can joust back but your not even in THE CONFERENCE league son , it just wouldnt be a fair game so Ill let you get back to reading Mary Whitehouse memoirs.

[BlueinBosnia]

I'm starting to think that Herb may be a poster along the lines of Asante and Young Nath...

[Chinners]

Those mudbath tales reminded me of some cold very wet Wednesday game back in the 80's away at Oxford ....

"Maxwell, buy us a roof, Maxwell Maxwell buy us a roof"

Made me laugh anyway ....

[Nigels Tackle]

I'm starting to think that Herb may be a poster along the lines of Asante and Young Nath...

but not as funny

poor man's mikhail chigorin mixed with a dose of lookmum

[Herb]

Oh, and I'm not going to explain what a cunt is to you because that would be condescending and I'll bet that you're sick of people being condescending towards you all the time aren't you?
I suggest that you go look it up on google - you might even find yourself attracted to one once you know what it is.

Is that the best you can come up with !! seriously ? you are just no fun Herbert , normally I like to joust with someone that can joust back but your not even in THE CONFERENCE league son , it just wouldnt be a fair game so Ill let you get back to reading Mary Whitehouse memoirs.[/quote]

Ooh you've made the text go all big - bloody hell Carl I'm just so in awe of you!!!

[Chinners]

<snigger>