Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:
You will probably find if ever a detailed analysis is done of our last 2 or 3 seasons, that even though we have huge numbers of shots on target, very few get through the sea of legs the player had o hit the ball through.
As a result I don't blame the strikerso for last season, but the approach we took that we walked he ball through the oppositions area more often than not, an approach that failed quite often from December 2011 until may.
A different approach will see the quality strikers we have full their boots, so I'm really not overly arsed about Cavani, but I would like another magician so option a for me
Once again I find myself agreeing with you. The quality of the chances, the clear cut ones if you like, seemed thinner on the ground last season.
aaron bond wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Dameerto wrote:Love Isco, totally ambivalent about Nasri - love Dzeko, pretty 'meh' about Cavani - so obviously 'A' for me.
I'm in this crew.
I think Dzeko has tons of potential in right system and if Pellegrini can really fire him up, which is supposed to be his thing, I really don't see much diference between him and Cavani. In fact, I see lot of bust potential with Cavani as well. He definitely needs right system around him too. And this doesn't bother me as much as many other supporters but Cavani can look clumsy occasionally as well.
This Isco kid, I really like him. I don't think he is surefire star but he is already million miles more dynamic than Nasri and has potential to be fantastic.
Nasri has underperformed for the majority of his time with us, and we could probably still get a reasonable fee for him, which would go someway to paying for Isco, so I'd be happy for us to sell him.
Whilst Cavani has been excellent in Italy, his fee would be extortionate, and so with our current strikers (extending Tevez's contract for a year or 2), and the impact of Navas and Isco into the side, I think we'd score far more goals next season. Dzeko, particularly, would benefit I believe.
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:" If one of them was off form or needed resting Tevez could easily take the job of Dzeko there. "
Do you think? Tevez as a traditional 9? I don't think so, he hasn't the discipline in his game to play a role like that imo.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:" If one of them was off form or needed resting Tevez could easily take the job of Dzeko there. "
Do you think? Tevez as a traditional 9? I don't think so, he hasn't the discipline in his game to play a role like that imo.
Oh, I absolutely do. In fact I've seen him do it for Argentina. He plays it differently ie providing lot more movement than your average CF and on the other hand obviously not being dominant in the air. But he can play with his back to goal, protect the ball, turn around and be lethal. He has great upper body strength which is absolutely essential for me. It's just that with us and rags he was rarely if ever asked to do that.
And before some fool jumps into it, I'm not saying that is his best position. Not AT ALL. I'm saying he can do it if asked.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:" If one of them was off form or needed resting Tevez could easily take the job of Dzeko there. "
Do you think? Tevez as a traditional 9? I don't think so, he hasn't the discipline in his game to play a role like that imo.
Oh, I absolutely do. In fact I've seen him do it for Argentina. He plays it differently ie providing lot more movement than your average CF and on the other hand obviously not being dominant in the air. But he can play with his back to goal, protect the ball, turn around and be lethal. He has great upper body strength which is absolutely essential for me. It's just that with us and rags he was rarely if ever asked to do that.
And before some fool jumps into it, I'm not saying that is his best position. Not AT ALL. I'm saying he can do it if asked.
Ted Hughes wrote:I agree Cavani & Dzeko could possibly play together. That, possibly with a winger, would be the 'plan b' that we have never used.
I would sign Isco, (but keep Nasri unless another similar player is on the radar).
Dzeko imo would have no problems if he put in 100% every week. Great that he scores goals but if the team has to play like shit in order for him to score, he's not worth it; just like Van Horseface at the swamp. He has one game on & one game off. If he stays this season & doesn't put the work in for for Pellegrini, that's two managers who can't get the best out of him; then we should negotiate with clubs & boot him out immediately the season ends. Pull your finger out Edin, or do one.
I don't think we will sign Cavani. It wouldn't surprise me if we stepped down in return for Madrid leaving Isco to us.
I do think we need to sign 'somebody' up front though. Just to give us a different angle on things. Even if it's just a kid.
Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:" If one of them was off form or needed resting Tevez could easily take the job of Dzeko there. "
Do you think? Tevez as a traditional 9? I don't think so, he hasn't the discipline in his game to play a role like that imo.
Oh, I absolutely do. In fact I've seen him do it for Argentina. He plays it differently ie providing lot more movement than your average CF and on the other hand obviously not being dominant in the air. But he can play with his back to goal, protect the ball, turn around and be lethal. He has great upper body strength which is absolutely essential for me. It's just that with us and rags he was rarely if ever asked to do that.
And before some fool jumps into it, I'm not saying that is his best position. Not AT ALL. I'm saying he can do it if asked.
Tevez doesn't really play as a striker very often for Argentina.
I think he is a GREAT player & could play anywhere in midfield or attack if he wants to. Some of the only decent crosses we have had last season are from Tevez. Likewise some of the best delivery from free kicks. He does the stuff Silva & Nasri are supposed to do, often better than they do it.
It looks like he's off though. I hope not.
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:" If one of them was off form or needed resting Tevez could easily take the job of Dzeko there. "
Do you think? Tevez as a traditional 9? I don't think so, he hasn't the discipline in his game to play a role like that imo.
Oh, I absolutely do. In fact I've seen him do it for Argentina. He plays it differently ie providing lot more movement than your average CF and on the other hand obviously not being dominant in the air. But he can play with his back to goal, protect the ball, turn around and be lethal. He has great upper body strength which is absolutely essential for me. It's just that with us and rags he was rarely if ever asked to do that.
And before some fool jumps into it, I'm not saying that is his best position. Not AT ALL. I'm saying he can do it if asked.
Tevez doesn't really play as a striker very often for Argentina.
I think he is a GREAT player & could play anywhere in midfield or attack if he wants to. Some of the only decent crosses we have had last season are from Tevez. Likewise some of the best delivery from free kicks. He does the stuff Silva & Nasri are supposed to do, often better than they do it.
It looks like he's off though. I hope not.
Yet when he wasn't around Silva produced his best stuff in a City shirt. Coincidence?
Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:" If one of them was off form or needed resting Tevez could easily take the job of Dzeko there. "
Do you think? Tevez as a traditional 9? I don't think so, he hasn't the discipline in his game to play a role like that imo.
Oh, I absolutely do. In fact I've seen him do it for Argentina. He plays it differently ie providing lot more movement than your average CF and on the other hand obviously not being dominant in the air. But he can play with his back to goal, protect the ball, turn around and be lethal. He has great upper body strength which is absolutely essential for me. It's just that with us and rags he was rarely if ever asked to do that.
And before some fool jumps into it, I'm not saying that is his best position. Not AT ALL. I'm saying he can do it if asked.
Tevez doesn't really play as a striker very often for Argentina.
I think he is a GREAT player & could play anywhere in midfield or attack if he wants to. Some of the only decent crosses we have had last season are from Tevez. Likewise some of the best delivery from free kicks. He does the stuff Silva & Nasri are supposed to do, often better than they do it.
It looks like he's off though. I hope not.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:" If one of them was off form or needed resting Tevez could easily take the job of Dzeko there. "
Do you think? Tevez as a traditional 9? I don't think so, he hasn't the discipline in his game to play a role like that imo.
Oh, I absolutely do. In fact I've seen him do it for Argentina. He plays it differently ie providing lot more movement than your average CF and on the other hand obviously not being dominant in the air. But he can play with his back to goal, protect the ball, turn around and be lethal. He has great upper body strength which is absolutely essential for me. It's just that with us and rags he was rarely if ever asked to do that.
And before some fool jumps into it, I'm not saying that is his best position. Not AT ALL. I'm saying he can do it if asked.
Tevez doesn't really play as a striker very often for Argentina.
I think he is a GREAT player & could play anywhere in midfield or attack if he wants to. Some of the only decent crosses we have had last season are from Tevez. Likewise some of the best delivery from free kicks. He does the stuff Silva & Nasri are supposed to do, often better than they do it.
It looks like he's off though. I hope not.
Not now but like I said, I've seen him do it in the past.
YayaJonas wrote:A for me. Just because I think with wingers we will get a much better performance from Dzeko and it won't cost £50 mil + and that will help our FFP
Bleed_Blue wrote:Neither
Buy Isco, keep Nasri, keep Dzeko.
Dzeko and Aguero if they give their best then we really dont need Cavani, not with the stupid money atleast.
Remember when Dzeko was good on counter attack, with Navas in team Dzeko can do better. Also Dzeko does provide some useful assists, misses sitters at times but I am not really sure how good of an improvement Cavani will be over Dzeko.
Dzeko with improved work rate is no less than Cavani. And Nasri is going to shine.
Risby wrote:I went for B, but it is looking more and more unlikely that Cavani will come to us and sign for Madrid.
MilnersJaw wrote:Bleed_Blue wrote:Neither
Buy Isco, keep Nasri, keep Dzeko.
Dzeko and Aguero if they give their best then we really dont need Cavani, not with the stupid money atleast.
Remember when Dzeko was good on counter attack, with Navas in team Dzeko can do better. Also Dzeko does provide some useful assists, misses sitters at times but I am not really sure how good of an improvement Cavani will be over Dzeko.
Dzeko with improved work rate is no less than Cavani. And Nasri is going to shine.
Dzeko so fking slow it's unbelievable he's a footballer.
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