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Re: Isco

Postby Slim » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:29 am

I didn't think Marwood was in that role anymore, or are we just using any excuse to blame him these days?
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Re: Isco

Postby sheblue » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:38 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:We should try flicking our fingers harder.

All these players would sign for City, but we obviously are not flicking our fingers properly.

I suggest we get rid of the Spanish blokes as they obviously feel they have to enter into negotiations & actuially try to persuade players to sign for us rather than clubs like Real Madrid, but we know, all we have to do is flick our fingers.

Finger clicking . Better package, we lose Isco we have found another way to come up short again, if he decides against coming to us.
The head honchos will want answers, Marwood has got to the table with agents of players so did Cookie,If we fail with Cavani and Isco we need a re-think. W dont see B.Munich failing or PSG, who looking in look like the Next Chelsea in a manager every 18 months. They must have a top team behind the scenes, as the squad they have have been convinced.


So basically, Isco will just sign for whoever offers him the most money ?


Surely his relationship with pellegrini will be a considerable factor, so it's not all about money.
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Re: Isco

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:51 am

sheblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:We should try flicking our fingers harder.

All these players would sign for City, but we obviously are not flicking our fingers properly.

I suggest we get rid of the Spanish blokes as they obviously feel they have to enter into negotiations & actuially try to persuade players to sign for us rather than clubs like Real Madrid, but we know, all we have to do is flick our fingers.

Finger clicking . Better package, we lose Isco we have found another way to come up short again, if he decides against coming to us.
The head honchos will want answers, Marwood has got to the table with agents of players so did Cookie,If we fail with Cavani and Isco we need a re-think. W dont see B.Munich failing or PSG, who looking in look like the Next Chelsea in a manager every 18 months. They must have a top team behind the scenes, as the squad they have have been convinced.


So basically, Isco will just sign for whoever offers him the most money ?


Surely his relationship with pellegrini will be a considerable factor, so it's not all about money.


Exactly, it's not all about money, so lets see what City offer that Real, can't. (this is not a dig at your post btw just a general reality check for others).

Pellegrini: check.
Money/wages ? They have loads of it so nope.

First team place ? Well, tbf, we do have Silva Nasri, Fernandinho, Yaya, Navas, Milner & Rodwell as competition whereas Real have Kaka, Modric & Ozil, Di Maria & that German horsefaced bloke. Hmm, hang on, not so cut & dried.

Champions League, hmm group of death again, nope.
Worlds 2nd best player as a team mate ? Ermm, nope.
Worldwide exposure as a player for the world's biggest club? Err..nope
Better image rights ? Ermm, nope.
Better chance of playing in the Spanish team? Err, nowhere near.
Better house ? Nope.
More stuff to do ? Nope.
Better weather ? Nope.
Language ? Nope.
Access to friends & family ? Nope.

So basically, it's Pellegrini then & that's it ? Yep.

In that case, sack Soriano & Txiki if we don't sign him.
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Re: Isco

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:58 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:We should try flicking our fingers harder.

All these players would sign for City, but we obviously are not flicking our fingers properly.

I suggest we get rid of the Spanish blokes as they obviously feel they have to enter into negotiations & actuially try to persuade players to sign for us rather than clubs like Real Madrid, but we know, all we have to do is flick our fingers.

Finger clicking . Better package, we lose Isco we have found another way to come up short again, if he decides against coming to us.
The head honchos will want answers, Marwood has got to the table with agents of players so did Cookie,If we fail with Cavani and Isco we need a re-think. W dont see B.Munich failing or PSG, who looking in look like the Next Chelsea in a manager every 18 months. They must have a top team behind the scenes, as the squad they have have been convinced.


So basically, Isco will just sign for whoever offers him the most money ?


i hope not, agents care about the % thye are getting and Madrid is a closed door forever if hesays No to them. As I said Barca not being in the mix gives us the biggest chance to get a player of this type, fail and we are gonna get panned.
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Re: Isco

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:02 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:We should try flicking our fingers harder.

All these players would sign for City, but we obviously are not flicking our fingers properly.

I suggest we get rid of the Spanish blokes as they obviously feel they have to enter into negotiations & actuially try to persuade players to sign for us rather than clubs like Real Madrid, but we know, all we have to do is flick our fingers.

Finger clicking . Better package, we lose Isco we have found another way to come up short again, if he decides against coming to us.
The head honchos will want answers, Marwood has got to the table with agents of players so did Cookie,If we fail with Cavani and Isco we need a re-think. W dont see B.Munich failing or PSG, who looking in look like the Next Chelsea in a manager every 18 months. They must have a top team behind the scenes, as the squad they have have been convinced.


So basically, Isco will just sign for whoever offers him the most money ?


i hope not, agents care about the % thye are getting and Madrid is a closed door forever if hesays No to them. As I said Barca not being in the mix gives us the biggest chance to get a player of this type, fail and we are gonna get panned.


Well Marca have just printed that Pellegrini could still seal this in our favour.

If we pull this off, all concerned deserve a fucking medal, not to get shit off people if we fail.

If this lad signs for Real, & he is good enough, he is made & will have our Dave's shirt in the Spain team.
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Re: Isco

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:17 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:We should try flicking our fingers harder.

All these players would sign for City, but we obviously are not flicking our fingers properly.

I suggest we get rid of the Spanish blokes as they obviously feel they have to enter into negotiations & actuially try to persuade players to sign for us rather than clubs like Real Madrid, but we know, all we have to do is flick our fingers.

Finger clicking . Better package, we lose Isco we have found another way to come up short again, if he decides against coming to us.
The head honchos will want answers, Marwood has got to the table with agents of players so did Cookie,If we fail with Cavani and Isco we need a re-think. W dont see B.Munich failing or PSG, who looking in look like the Next Chelsea in a manager every 18 months. They must have a top team behind the scenes, as the squad they have have been convinced.


So basically, Isco will just sign for whoever offers him the most money ?


i hope not, agents care about the % thye are getting and Madrid is a closed door forever if hesays No to them. As I said Barca not being in the mix gives us the biggest chance to get a player of this type, fail and we are gonna get panned.


Well Marca have just printed that Pellegrini could still seal this in our favour.

If we pull this off, all concerned deserve a fucking medal, not to get shit off people if we fail.

If this lad signs for Real, & he is good enough, he is made & will have our Dave's shirt in the Spain team.


must sign after the work, We might switch to Thiago, if we fail and again the Rags would throw the lot at a player they have wanted for 3 yrs.
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Re: Isco

Postby Blue Blood » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:56 am

Nigels Tackle wrote:
OliverHardy wrote:Graham hunter saying some interesting things on twitter. https://mobile.twitter.com/BumperGraham

But odds are concerning


panic at the isco


If what Hunter says is true, RM are doing some clever stuff with the spanish media.

All cloak and dagger atm but I have faith in City to get it done. This aside if he were to go Madrid we would just move onto our next target anyway, there are plenty of world class players out there so it is not world ending if he doesn't sign.

On a personal level though, I will be gutted. No Isco, no disco.
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Re: Isco

Postby Sideshow Bob » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:23 am

So much for the "nonaggression pact" pact...
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Re: Isco

Postby Sideshow Bob » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:29 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:We should try flicking our fingers harder.

All these players would sign for City, but we obviously are not flicking our fingers properly.

I suggest we get rid of the Spanish blokes as they obviously feel they have to enter into negotiations & actuially try to persuade players to sign for us rather than clubs like Real Madrid, but we know, all we have to do is flick our fingers.

Finger clicking . Better package, we lose Isco we have found another way to come up short again, if he decides against coming to us.
The head honchos will want answers, Marwood has got to the table with agents of players so did Cookie,If we fail with Cavani and Isco we need a re-think. W dont see B.Munich failing or PSG, who looking in look like the Next Chelsea in a manager every 18 months. They must have a top team behind the scenes, as the squad they have have been convinced.


So basically, Isco will just sign for whoever offers him the most money ?


i hope not, agents care about the % thye are getting and Madrid is a closed door forever if hesays No to them. As I said Barca not being in the mix gives us the biggest chance to get a player of this type, fail and we are gonna get panned.


Well Marca have just printed that Pellegrini could still seal this in our favour.

If we pull this off, all concerned deserve a fucking medal, not to get shit off people if we fail.

If this lad signs for Real, & he is good enough, he is made & will have our Dave's shirt in the Spain team.


If we fail, it means that even savvy wheeler dealers like tkixi and soriano can't get us over the hump with top tier prospects. Very worrying.
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Re: Isco

Postby paulh » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:48 am

Sideshow bob spot on mate! Our partnership with real out of window
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Re: Isco

Postby patrickblue » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:51 am

paulh wrote:Sideshow bob spot on mate! Our partnership with real out of window


Tbh, it makes me feel uneasy, the thought of being in bed with the Spanish rags.
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Re: Isco

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:52 am

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carl_feedthegoat wrote:Discussing the Isco, David Silva, and Jesus Navas axis at Manchester City

It seems that Isco has rejected the opportunity to join Real Madrid, and will soon become a Manchester City player. While that’s not terrific news for the other clubs in the Premier League, it would be a huge signing for the division as a whole.

For the sake of argument, let’s assume that this is happening, and focus on what kind of impact Isco will have at the Etihad Stadium.

As discussed previously, Manuel Pellegrini favours the below formation, and will almost certainly set his attacking-midfield out as per the graphic.

I talk a lot on this side about the importance of attacking fluidity, and the value of having interchangeable players in advanced positions.

What City now have, heading into next season, are three players who can change positions at will, and who all carry an equal but varied threat to the opposition. Jesus Navas is far less comfortable in central areas than the other two, but he still has the attributes to create big issues for defenders in that part of the pitch – pace, great control, good final-ball.

By and large, defending in the Premier League is about stopping certain players whilst maintaining a shape – preventing the creative, ball-playing types from influencing a game, but without becoming vulnerable elsewhere. Last season, when a side faced Roberto Mancini’s Manchester City, their main priority would have been to prevent David Silva from becoming isolated with a single defender – hassle him, take away his space, and an opponent had a good chance of blunting City’s attacking progress.

Now though, how does a team match-up with a side who, realistically, have three players who need to be in double-coverage at all times? And, significantly, that’s without even factoring-in Sergio Aguero.

At this stage of the Summer, although admittedly with plenty of transfer movement still to come, there isn’t a side in the Premier League who have sufficient defensive strength to deal with that.


One of your more intelligent posts Carl. Well done.


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Re: Isco

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:55 am

If Isco goes to Real then there is no stain on our negotiator's. I'd go as far to say that if Real are in for him then we are serious underdogs. Real, at the moment, is a far greater pull for most players and the thought of Isco having a chance to go there would probably make his footballing dream come true. I'd even suggest that he'd take a far lesser wage just for the chance.

This is not to say that we cannot offer him something more appealing. Coming to us offers further development with less pressure to perform than at Real with also the better proposition of being a first choice player. We also have the 'Project' with long term stability. And then there's our hispanic contingent as well as the Pellegrini affect which could be crucial in any talks, lessening the cultural blow.

For me it's a 60/40 in favour of Real but in the end it will all be down to who offers the greater funds to Malaga and which club is going to give Isco the love and attention to thrive.
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Re: Isco

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:12 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:If Isco goes to Real then there is no stain on our negotiator's. I'd go as far to say that if Real are in for him then we are serious underdogs. Real, at the moment, is a far greater pull for most players and the thought of Isco having a chance to go there would probably make his footballing dream come true. I'd even suggest that he'd take a far lesser wage just for the chance.

This is not to say that we cannot offer him something more appealing. Coming to us offers further development with less pressure to perform than at Real with also the better proposition of being a first choice player. We also have the 'Project' with long term stability. And then there's our hispanic contingent as well as the Pellegrini affect which could be crucial in any talks, lessening the cultural blow.

For me it's a 60/40 in favour of Real but in the end it will all be down to who offers the greater funds to Malaga and which club is going to give Isco the love and attention to thrive.


He has a BOC it is down to the amigos and the manager to seal the deal, They are on millions to do so.
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Re: Isco

Postby dazby » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:15 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Fuck off you ginger cunt.


How did you do up the graphic?
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Re: Isco

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:19 pm

dazby wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Fuck off you ginger cunt.


How did you do up the graphic?


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Re: Isco

Postby dazby » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:22 pm

This is the second time now you've done a post with a graphic. How did you do it?
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Re: Isco

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:25 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:If Isco goes to Real then there is no stain on our negotiator's. I'd go as far to say that if Real are in for him then we are serious underdogs. Real, at the moment, is a far greater pull for most players and the thought of Isco having a chance to go there would probably make his footballing dream come true. I'd even suggest that he'd take a far lesser wage just for the chance.

This is not to say that we cannot offer him something more appealing. Coming to us offers further development with less pressure to perform than at Real with also the better proposition of being a first choice player. We also have the 'Project' with long term stability. And then there's our hispanic contingent as well as the Pellegrini affect which could be crucial in any talks, lessening the cultural blow.

For me it's a 60/40 in favour of Real but in the end it will all be down to who offers the greater funds to Malaga and which club is going to give Isco the love and attention to thrive.


He has a BOC it is down to the amigos and the manager to seal the deal, They are on millions to do so.

He is also Spanish with the biggest club in the world possibly wanting to sign him. Forget the weather, forget the restaurants, forget the 'Project' and drop the 'Blue Tints' for a second, sometimes negotiations are not enough.
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Re: Isco

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:34 pm

Sideshow Bob wrote:
If we fail, it means that even savvy wheeler dealers like tkixi and soriano can't get us over the hump with top tier prospects. Very worrying.


If we lose him to Valencia, then yes. But the rags lost Tranny to Madrid, Arse lost Fabregas to Barca. The pull of those two can be too much to compete against an we should be critical if we fail
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Re: Isco

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:35 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Why are you talking to me ? go away


A gentleman asks a simple question and Hasselhoff can't even answer.

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