Free kick taker.

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Re: Free kick taker.

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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:45 pm

ashton287 wrote:Rvp's free kick against us?

It was a pile of shit. He was attempting to bend it into the top corner. It hit the wall at knee height. It only went in because nasri is a fucking French fanny.

A free kick "specialist" might get us 3/4 goals a season. We need a quality striker that will score us 30 goals.


Or 6 or 7. Plus 5 or 6 assists from well delivered balls into the box. Which would have made the difference between winning and losing the title last season.

Who are the rags after ? Baines. For his defensive brilliance ? Nope, because he will give them yet more goals from set pieces & crosses.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby maxxi » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:41 am

Mase wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Balotelli was utter shite at free kicks. Don't think I ever saw him get one over the wall.


Because every time he tried to take one Kolarov twated him. And rightly so.


Not sure about 'rightly so', from what I've seen he's one of the best free kick taker, he shits all over Kolarov, Bale and Ronaldo.

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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:27 am

maxxi wrote:
Mase wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Balotelli was utter shite at free kicks. Don't think I ever saw him get one over the wall.


Because every time he tried to take one Kolarov twated him. And rightly so.


Not sure about 'rightly so', from what I've seen he's one of the best free kick taker, he shits all over Kolarov, Bale and Ronaldo.

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7 - Balotelli attempted 7 shots on target from direct free-kicks vs Chievo, the most in a single game across the top-5 Euro leagues this term. Obsession.

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You are absolutely right about having an obsession. You must be totally in love with the bloke. I've read some shit in my time but that just about tops it. Fucking hell. Have you had your head in a fucking bucket for the last two years Balotelli has been at City, or don't City count ?

Better at free kicks than Bale & Ronaldo ?
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby maxxi » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:30 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
maxxi wrote:
Mase wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Balotelli was utter shite at free kicks. Don't think I ever saw him get one over the wall.


Because every time he tried to take one Kolarov twated him. And rightly so.


Not sure about 'rightly so', from what I've seen he's one of the best free kick taker, he shits all over Kolarov, Bale and Ronaldo.

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7 - Balotelli attempted 7 shots on target from direct free-kicks vs Chievo, the most in a single game across the top-5 Euro leagues this term. Obsession.

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[youtube]/4GRX5VYS5WI[/youtube]


You are absolutely right about having an obsession. You must be totally in love with the bloke. I've read some shit in my time but that just about tops it. Fucking hell. Have you had your head in a fucking bucket for the last two years Balotelli has been at City, or don't City count ?

Better at free kicks than Bale & Ronaldo ?


Hey Mr angry,

You sir are talking shit not me, so please stop being so bitter.

Ronaldo's free kick accuracy is 8%. Facts not opinion!

FK attempts: 179
Free kick goals: 15
Off target: 55
Woodwork: 4
Hit wall: 68

You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts.

Cheers.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby I Just Blue Myself » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:46 am

maxxi wrote:Hey Mr angry,

You sir are talking shit not me, so please stop being so bitter.

Ronaldo's free kick accuracy is 8%. Facts not opinion!

FK attempts: 179
Free kick goals: 15
Off target: 55
Woodwork: 4
Hit wall: 68

You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts.

Cheers.


How high is Balotelli's?
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:56 am

maxxi wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
maxxi wrote:
Mase wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Balotelli was utter shite at free kicks. Don't think I ever saw him get one over the wall.


Because every time he tried to take one Kolarov twated him. And rightly so.


Not sure about 'rightly so', from what I've seen he's one of the best free kick taker, he shits all over Kolarov, Bale and Ronaldo.

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7 - Balotelli attempted 7 shots on target from direct free-kicks vs Chievo, the most in a single game across the top-5 Euro leagues this term. Obsession.

You are absolutely right about having an obsession. You must be totally in love with the bloke. I've read some shit in my time but that just about tops it. Fucking hell. Have you had your head in a fucking bucket for the last two years Balotelli has been at City, or don't City count ?

Better at free kicks than Bale & Ronaldo ?


Hey Mr angry,

You sir are talking shit not me, so please stop being so bitter.

Ronaldo's free kick accuracy is 8%. Facts not opinion!

FK attempts: 179
Free kick goals: 15
Off target: 55
Woodwork: 4
Hit wall: 68

You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts.

Cheers.


So because Mario got some on target in a game, he is better than Ronaldo at free kicks ?

In computer world maybe.

Your facts mean that Ronaldo will score a goal every few games from a free kick. How many did Balotelli get for City?

How many hit the target ?

And your stats say Ronaldo hit the target 56 times, which is an accuracy rating of 30 odd percent, not 8.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby london blue 2 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:57 am

Mario is shit at freekicks, anyone who thinks otherwise is a clown.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:56 pm

london blue 2 wrote:Mario is shit at freekicks, anyone who thinks otherwise is a clown.

Agreed, I don't care what any manipulated facts say, he was utter shit at them. I got pissed off every time he was about to take one because I knew it was going straight into the wall. And it did...every time.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:50 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Agreed, I don't care what any manipulated facts say, he was utter shit at them. I got pissed off every time he was about to take one because I knew it was going straight into the wall. And it did...every time.


Well how do you know that it is manipulated? Maxwell has shown some numbers to back his case up, albeit it doesn't say where they're from. You on the other hand have nothing but your opinion.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:53 pm

maxxi wrote:
Hey Mr angry,

You sir are talking shit not me, so please stop being so bitter.

Ronaldo's free kick accuracy is 8%. Facts not opinion!

FK attempts: 179
Free kick goals: 15
Off target: 55
Woodwork: 4
Hit wall: 68

You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts.

Cheers.


Hey Maxwell, where are those stats from and what are the numbers for balotelli?

I like it that you're trying to take this discussion to another level but it's hard to make any judgement based on this piece of information.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:02 pm

Coco, the facts can be manipulated anyway you want to show whatever point you want. And just because someone backs something up with facts it doesn't validate what they have claimed.
You don't fucking need facts to proove that Balotelli is nowhere near as good at free kicks as Bale or Ronaldo.
Both score far more than him and both always threaten from free kicks.
I don't even think Balotelli ever came close to scoring one for us and he had multiple chances.

'Balotelli shits all over Ronaldo and Bale'
Do me a fucking favour.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:22 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Coco, the facts can be manipulated anyway you want to show whatever point you want. And just because someone backs something up with facts it doesn't validate what they have claimed.
You don't fucking need facts to proove that Balotelli is nowhere near as good at free kicks as Bale or Ronaldo.
Both score far more than him and both always threaten from free kicks.
I don't even think Balotelli ever came close to scoring one for us and he had multiple chances.

'Balotelli shits all over Ronaldo and Bale'
Do me a fucking favour.


1. A fact is a fact.

2. What maxi showed was not a fact but but some stats to strengthen his case.

3. You have twice called his stats manipulated. Which is weird because there can be on statistics without manipulation. It's not like there are stats lying around somewhere, waiting to be picked up. I guess what you're inferring is that there stats are fake or to some extent made up/manipulated to show something that's not there. In other words you've twice called Maxwell a liar without backing that up with anything but your own opinion. How about showing us how maxi is a liar, or in words that you'd probably find meaningful, a manipulator of facts?
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Yaya Toure is a LAD » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:31 pm

Navas can take them, get Aguero on 'em!
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:41 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Coco, the facts can be manipulated anyway you want to show whatever point you want. And just because someone backs something up with facts it doesn't validate what they have claimed.
You don't fucking need facts to proove that Balotelli is nowhere near as good at free kicks as Bale or Ronaldo.
Both score far more than him and both always threaten from free kicks.
I don't even think Balotelli ever came close to scoring one for us and he had multiple chances.

'Balotelli shits all over Ronaldo and Bale'
Do me a fucking favour.


1. A fact is a fact.

2. What maxi showed was not a fact but but some stats to strengthen his case.

3. You have twice called his stats manipulated. Which is weird because there can be on statistics without manipulation. It's not like there are stats lying around somewhere, waiting to be picked up. I guess what you're inferring is that there stats are fake or to some extent made up/manipulated to show something that's not there. In other words you've twice called Maxwell a liar without backing that up with anything but your own opinion. How about showing us how maxi is a liar, or in words that you'd probably find meaningful, a manipulator of facts?



Perhaps manipulated was the wrong word. Selective is probably a more accurate word.
But stats can be very selectively used to try and show a point.
He's selectively used those facts and ignored the fact that over the last few seasons both Ronaldo and Bale have scored many more free kicks than him. I'm not calling him a liar. Just that when people use stats, it doesn't always strengthen their case.
Stats for example show that Dzeko had a better minute to goal ratio than Aguero for us last season. Does that make him better than Aguero?

But to claim that Balotelli shits over Bale and Ronaldo at free kicks is simply deluded.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby I Just Blue Myself » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:52 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Stats for example show that Dzeko had a better minute to goal ratio than Aguero for us last season. Does that make him better than Aguero?

That makes him better at scoring goals last season. Do you disagree?

I'm still genuinely interested in Balotelli's free kick numbers.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Rae4685 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:02 pm

BALOTELLI - Incredible from the penalty spot granted but thats about self confidence free kicks for us were shite. Ronaldo has had his technique copied worldwide and you claim balotelli to be better? Prozac?!?
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:08 pm

I Just Blue Myself wrote:That makes him better at scoring goals last season. Do you disagree?

I'm still genuinely interested in Balotelli's free kick numbers.


Well at least it says he was more effective at scoring goals when comparing goals per minute. Which is kind of a key part of being a striker.

Also curios about balotelli's stats. But am also lazy.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:22 pm

I Just Blue Myself wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Stats for example show that Dzeko had a better minute to goal ratio than Aguero for us last season. Does that make him better than Aguero?

That makes him better at scoring goals last season. Do you disagree?

I'm still genuinely interested in Balotelli's free kick numbers.

Ok here's a better example.
Lopes (the lad who scored v Watford) has our highest goals to minutes ratio this season.
That's a fact which can not be argued with. So therefore he's our best goalscorer?
That's what I mean by people can use facts incredibly selectively to try and prove what ever point they want.
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Re: Free kick taker.

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:11 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Ok here's a better example.
Lopes (the lad who scored v Watford) has our highest goals to minutes ratio this season.
That's a fact which can not be argued with. So therefore he's our best goalscorer?
That's what I mean by people can use facts incredibly selectively to try and prove what ever point they want.


And if someone tries to do that you discuss the basis of the opinion and show him or her that at least statistically, using small sample sizes can be very misleading. Or you might just say that going by one appearance is just stupid. Saying that a poor use of a type of argument or ground for opinion automatically makes any use of that type of argument arbitrary, just doesn't make sense.
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