Nasty's Ankle

[Ted Hughes]

Fair enough Ted, your intentions are admirable.

To me though the way it's coming across is that you are being just as unfair to Nasty as Lescott's detractors are to him.

I agree about signing another CB, I'm beginning to wonder whether allowing Kolo to move on was such a good idea.

I actually was about to post that Nastasic was answering a lot of my questions v Sunderland, generally getting much more involved, doing more defending & looking good for the new season. Then Wickham did him like a kipper. This kind of thing happened about 8 or 10 times last season, often v nobodies & rarely resulting in a goal, but it happened nontheless. As I had decided to generally stop mentioning Nastasic mistakes, nobody else did, so consequently, on here, it never happened & we get the 'we'll be ok with Vinny & Nasty' comments. Well we might be fantastic With those two, but the only current evidence on Nasty is a poorish end to last season, an absolute nightmare in his first pre season game, a fantastic performance v Sunderland but ending in humiliation & injury.

How people get 100% confidence from that, I have no idea.

Vinny incidentally is looking like the best cb in the world again & the way he was chucking his body in to block stuff v Bayern is one of the things I'm looking for from Nasty this season, not coasting around looking cool. Twits on here tell me good defenders don't do that kind of defending: BOLLOCKS.

Boyata was doing a bit of it & was promising v Bayern, but if the system the Count has in mind is for the whole team to eventually push up like Barca, then imo Kolo was a better option than Lescott or Nastasic & we should have at least one cb with pace.

If we could sign a top cb with a yard of pace, from what I'm seeing, we could be Incredible this season, the JL & Nasty are great backup who can still play a good 30 games each.

[johnny crossan]

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

ITV claiming he'll miss the first 6 weeks of the season!

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/artic ... six-weeks/?

[london blue 2]

ITV claiming he'll miss the first 6 weeks of the season!

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/artic ... six-weeks/?

BBC saying the same :( Carl will be suicidal

[PrezIke]

guardian saying 4-6 weeks.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ester-city

also, aguero coming back to fitness. at least we can stop with the silly transfer speculation there.

[carl_feedthegoat]

The count will be gutted but Im sure he will bring pepe in before the month is out........

[Dameerto]

guardian saying 4-6 weeks.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ester-city

also, aguero coming back to fitness. at least we can stop with the silly transfer speculation there.

The papers will still be trying to sell Aguero and Dzeko until the window closes. Bunch of clueless t**ts.

[MilnersJaw]

Lescott is miles ahead of nasty. And it is unfair how much shit lescott gets when nasty never does anything amazing.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Lescott is miles ahead of nasty. And it is unfair how much shit lescott gets when nasty never does anything amazing.

Idiot alert.

[PrezIke]

Lescott is miles ahead of nasty. And it is unfair how much shit lescott gets when nasty never does anything amazing.

did you mean to write "mils?"

sorry, i was just a bit thrown off at first.

[PrezIke]

in fairness, i get why a few try to defend lescott. i think nasty's composure on the ball, being a player of his age and experience, led him to be ahead of lescott, as we of course hope to develop him further. given his ability to perform on this level at a top club so quickly makes it not hard to see why he was given the nod to start over joleon.

at this point won't matter now as unless we bring in pepe or someone like that lescott will get another chance to prove himself again for a bit.

i was also fairly impressed with boyata against bayern, and appears he made the squad list, but also seems a bit risky for a club such as ours to rely on him as your third cb for some time. maybe he gets some chances early on to see how he does. if not i would expect us to make a move for another centre back.

[MilnersJaw]

Idiot alert.

Why?

[ant london]

in fairness, i get why a few try to defend lescott. i think nasty's composure on the ball, being a player of his age and experience, led him to be ahead of lescott, as we of course hope to develop him further. given his ability to perform on this level at a top club so quickly makes it not hard to see why he was given the nod to start over joleon.

at this point won't matter now as unless we bring in pepe or someone like that lescott will get another chance to prove himself again for a bit.

i was also fairly impressed with boyata against bayern, and appears he made the squad list, but also seems a bit risky for a club such as ours to rely on him as your third cb for some time. maybe he gets some chances early on to see how he does. if not i would expect us to make a move for another centre back.

I'd be v happy if boyataboyataboyata came good. It would be such a shame if that 'mare against arsenal turned out to be terminal for him.

I'd imagine that (as a fellow belgian) Vincent will be very active in trying to coach and captain him back to the levels he looked to be potentially capable of. Would be great if he can achieve that

[Bluedj]

Fair enough Ted, your intentions are admirable.

To me though the way it's coming across is that you are being just as unfair to Nasty as Lescott's detractors are to him.

I agree about signing another CB, I'm beginning to wonder whether allowing Kolo to move on was such a good idea.

I actually was about to post that Nastasic was answering a lot of my questions v Sunderland, generally getting much more involved, doing more defending & looking good for the new season. Then Wickham did him like a kipper. This kind of thing happened about 8 or 10 times last season, often v nobodies & rarely resulting in a goal, but it happened nontheless. As I had decided to generally stop mentioning Nastasic mistakes, nobody else did, so consequently, on here, it never happened & we get the 'we'll be ok with Vinny & Nasty' comments. Well we might be fantastic With those two, but the only current evidence on Nasty is a poorish end to last season, an absolute nightmare in his first pre season game, a fantastic performance v Sunderland but ending in humiliation & injury.

How people get 100% confidence from that, I have no idea.

Vinny incidentally is looking like the best cb in the world again & the way he was chucking his body in to block stuff v Bayern is one of the things I'm looking for from Nasty this season, not coasting around looking cool. Twits on here tell me good defenders don't do that kind of defending: BOLLOCKS.

Boyata was doing a bit of it & was promising v Bayern, but if the system the Count has in mind is for the whole team to eventually push up like Barca, then imo Kolo was a better option than Lescott or Nastasic & we should have at least one cb with pace.

If we could sign a top cb with a yard of pace, from what I'm seeing, we could be Incredible this season, the JL & Nasty are great backup who can still play a good 30 games each.

Ted I agree with your points and Boyata also played very well for his Bayern apperance. What I liked about him that JL & Nasty don't have is pace. I was very surprised and pleased by his performance, flawless far from it but up against that quality of opposition, very pleasing from the young lad. I hope he's given other opportunities to help his progression

[AG7]

Why?

LOL, you had to ask?

[aaron bond]

Disappointing news Nastasic is out for 4-6 weeks, but I suppose we should just be glad it's not for longer. This does leave us light at centre back now though, unless Pellegrini believes Richards, Boyata and Garcia are adequate cover.

Great opportunity for Lescott now though. He's still the best partner for Vinny in my opinion. I'm more confident with him at the back, than with Nastasic playing.

[Jorgobot]

I hear we MAY be in for pep(e). I doubt it thou

[aaron bond]

I hear we MAY be in for pep(e). I doubt it thou

Really???

That's new news! Thanks for the inside scoop!

[Ted Hughes]

Fair enough Ted, your intentions are admirable.

To me though the way it's coming across is that you are being just as unfair to Nasty as Lescott's detractors are to him.

I agree about signing another CB, I'm beginning to wonder whether allowing Kolo to move on was such a good idea.

I actually was about to post that Nastasic was answering a lot of my questions v Sunderland, generally getting much more involved, doing more defending & looking good for the new season. Then Wickham did him like a kipper. This kind of thing happened about 8 or 10 times last season, often v nobodies & rarely resulting in a goal, but it happened nontheless. As I had decided to generally stop mentioning Nastasic mistakes, nobody else did, so consequently, on here, it never happened & we get the 'we'll be ok with Vinny & Nasty' comments. Well we might be fantastic With those two, but the only current evidence on Nasty is a poorish end to last season, an absolute nightmare in his first pre season game, a fantastic performance v Sunderland but ending in humiliation & injury.

How people get 100% confidence from that, I have no idea.

Vinny incidentally is looking like the best cb in the world again & the way he was chucking his body in to block stuff v Bayern is one of the things I'm looking for from Nasty this season, not coasting around looking cool. Twits on here tell me good defenders don't do that kind of defending: BOLLOCKS.

Boyata was doing a bit of it & was promising v Bayern, but if the system the Count has in mind is for the whole team to eventually push up like Barca, then imo Kolo was a better option than Lescott or Nastasic & we should have at least one cb with pace.

If we could sign a top cb with a yard of pace, from what I'm seeing, we could be Incredible this season, the JL & Nasty are great backup who can still play a good 30 games each.

Ted I agree with your points and Boyata also played very well for his Bayern apperance. What I liked about him that JL & Nasty don't have is pace. I was very surprised and pleased by his performance, flawless far from it but up against that quality of opposition, very pleasing from the young lad. I hope he's given other opportunities to help his progression

I had completely written off Boyata under Mancini; imo he had lost it completely, but if the Count can hypnotize him into believing in himself again, he has everything required to be top quality. He is a much better physical specimen than Nasty & a bit quicker. He has already gone 1v1 with some top players and won the battle (something Nasty has yet to do).

The difference is in the head; Nastasic doesn't seem to allow his fuck ups top bother him, Boyata was thrown into some ridiculous situations by Mancini, when he shouldn't have been playing, & cost us the games. It seemed to scar him mentally.

If you are going to play centre back, you are going to fuck up & lose games for your team on occasion, it happens to all of them. Nastasic starts the next one without worrying, & Boyata (if he can force his way back in) needs to be of the same mentality, or he will just disappear once again.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Fair enough Ted, your intentions are admirable.

To me though the way it's coming across is that you are being just as unfair to Nasty as Lescott's detractors are to him.

I agree about signing another CB, I'm beginning to wonder whether allowing Kolo to move on was such a good idea.

I actually was about to post that Nastasic was answering a lot of my questions v Sunderland, generally getting much more involved, doing more defending & looking good for the new season. Then Wickham did him like a kipper. This kind of thing happened about 8 or 10 times last season, often v nobodies & rarely resulting in a goal, but it happened nontheless. As I had decided to generally stop mentioning Nastasic mistakes, nobody else did, so consequently, on here, it never happened & we get the 'we'll be ok with Vinny & Nasty' comments. Well we might be fantastic With those two, but the only current evidence on Nasty is a poorish end to last season, an absolute nightmare in his first pre season game, a fantastic performance v Sunderland but ending in humiliation & injury.

How people get 100% confidence from that, I have no idea.

Vinny incidentally is looking like the best cb in the world again & the way he was chucking his body in to block stuff v Bayern is one of the things I'm looking for from Nasty this season, not coasting around looking cool. Twits on here tell me good defenders don't do that kind of defending: BOLLOCKS.

Boyata was doing a bit of it & was promising v Bayern, but if the system the Count has in mind is for the whole team to eventually push up like Barca, then imo Kolo was a better option than Lescott or Nastasic & we should have at least one cb with pace.

If we could sign a top cb with a yard of pace, from what I'm seeing, we could be Incredible this season, the JL & Nasty are great backup who can still play a good 30 games each.

Ted I agree with your points and Boyata also played very well for his Bayern apperance. What I liked about him that JL & Nasty don't have is pace. I was very surprised and pleased by his performance, flawless far from it but up against that quality of opposition, very pleasing from the young lad. I hope he's given other opportunities to help his progression

I had completely written off Boyata under Mancini; imo he had lost it completely, but if the Count can hypnotize him into believing in himself again, he has everything required to be top quality. He is a much better physical specimen than Nasty & a bit quicker. He has already gone 1v1 with some top players and won the battle (something Nasty has yet to do).

The difference is in the head; Nastasic doesn't seem to allow his fuck ups top bother him, Boyata was thrown into some ridiculous situations by Mancini, when he shouldn't have been playing, & cost us the games. It seemed to scar him mentally.

If you are going to play centre back, you are going to fuck up & lose games for your team on occasion, it happens to all of them. Nastasic starts the next one without worrying, & Boyata (if he can force his way back in) needs to be of the same mentality, or he will just disappear once again.

It will indeed be interesting to see how Boyata responds to opportunities that come his way and to how much his confidence has been restored.I saw him in a few games last season.At times he looked quality and commanding and then he would make silly mistakes which appeared to be almost overconfidence.Quite right that he is physically the real deal.Time will tell.