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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby ant london » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:51 am

We will marmalize them...just like we did those premier league new boys Cardiff
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby DoomMerchant » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:57 am

ant london wrote:We will marmalize them...just like we did those premier league new boys Cardiff


Easy peasy. Tiger meat on the barbie.
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:31 am

Moonchesteri wrote:All they need to do is to put 10 men behind the ball and make sure Panti is injured and we're in trouble
Still looking forward to it!

These 'lower level' teams always get stretched too much on our wide pitch.
It'll be a dawdle

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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby AG7 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:26 am

TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:These 'lower level' teams always get stretched too much on our wide pitch.
It'll be a dawdle

Keep the faith


The whole 'wide pitch' is a myth I wonder why it still goes on ... from last season all pitches are same exact size so yes even stoke had to open up theirs and I think we had to shrink our sidelines a bit ... all 20 PL grounds now exactly the same size so get over it!
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby sheblue » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:36 am

Saul Goodman wrote:Hoping to see:


Panti
Zaba lescott Nasti Clichy
Barry Fernandinho
Milner Silva Jovetic
Negredo



cant see yaya being 'rested'.
love to see Negredo get a start.
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby tc6828 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:49 pm

Is Joko injured?

Would like to see Negredo also, he looks a damn sight hungrier than Djeko. Also, lets give the pants man a start, irrespective of Joe's recent form.

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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby Slim » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:57 pm

tc6828 wrote:Is Joko injured?

Would like to see Negredo also, he looks a damn sight hungrier than Djeko. Also, lets give the pants man a start, irrespective of Joe's recent form.

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I think you mean JoJo.
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby tc6828 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:32 pm

Sorry. First post and still learning the jargon.

Is JoJo injured as we haven't seen sight nor sound of him.

Might we see him on Sat
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby steveo_88 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:13 pm

tc6828 wrote:Sorry. First post and still learning the jargon.

Is JoJo injured as we haven't seen sight nor sound of him.

Might we see him on Sat


He's way behind on his preseason work due to injury that's why. I doubt he'll start, but he may well feature later in the game. So long as someone keeps that little French git off the left wing I've no qualms.

Samir needs to be sold and another fast winger brought in to balance up the side with Navas in it, Silva is most effective in the centre. Defenders have already started double teaming Jesus, although I wish he would at least try to skin players more often. He could be a set piece providing machine like SWP used to be if he tried.

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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby ant london » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:45 am

steveo_88 wrote:
He's way behind on his preseason work due to injury that's why. I doubt he'll start, but he may well feature later in the game. So long as someone keeps that little French git off the left wing I've no qualms.

Samir needs to be sold and another fast winger brought in to balance up the side with Navas in it, Silva is most effective in the centre. Defenders have already started double teaming Jesus, although I wish he would at least try to skin players more often. He could be a set piece providing machine like SWP used to be if he tried.

Can't wait for the weekend!


You make it sound like it's Xmas and Jesus has been long found out....dear me
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:15 pm

Slim wrote:
tc6828 wrote:Is Joko injured?

Would like to see Negredo also, he looks a damn sight hungrier than Djeko. Also, lets give the pants man a start, irrespective of Joe's recent form.

3-0 to the blues


I think you mean JoJo.


of course he does. Everyone knows that you are the one and only "Joko."

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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby Original Dub » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:20 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Slim wrote:
tc6828 wrote:Is Joko injured?

Would like to see Negredo also, he looks a damn sight hungrier than Djeko. Also, lets give the pants man a start, irrespective of Joe's recent form.

3-0 to the blues


I think you mean JoJo.


of course he does. Everyone knows that you are the one and only "Joko."

cheers


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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:50 pm

AG7 wrote:
TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:These 'lower level' teams always get stretched too much on our wide pitch.
It'll be a dawdle

Keep the faith


The whole 'wide pitch' is a myth I wonder why it still goes on ... from last season all pitches are same exact size so yes even stoke had to open up theirs and I think we had to shrink our sidelines a bit ... all 20 PL grounds now exactly the same size so get over it!


http://www.openplay.co.uk/blog/premiers ... 2012-2013/

According to the above, we had the widest pitch, and by 8 yards more than the narrowest - West Ham's
Where do you get your information from?
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby Dameerto » Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:56 pm

TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:
AG7 wrote:
TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:These 'lower level' teams always get stretched too much on our wide pitch.
It'll be a dawdle

Keep the faith


The whole 'wide pitch' is a myth I wonder why it still goes on ... from last season all pitches are same exact size so yes even stoke had to open up theirs and I think we had to shrink our sidelines a bit ... all 20 PL grounds now exactly the same size so get over it!


http://www.openplay.co.uk/blog/premiers ... 2012-2013/

According to the above, we had the widest pitch, and by 8 yards more than the narrowest - West Ham's
Where do you get your information from?


I heard several commentators and pundits refer to standard pitch sizes last season so went to check, there's a downloadable 'Premier League Handbook 2012/2013' which has a section on pitches (section K): (incidentally I think the RAGs were in breach of K.27. last season but nothing was done about it as far as I know)

SECTION K: GROUND CRITERIA
K.21. Unless otherwise permitted by the Board, in League Matches the length of the pitch shall be 105 metres and its breadth 68 metres.

K.22. The Board shall only give permission to a Club for the dimensions of its pitch to be other than as set out in Rule K.21 if it is impossible for it to comply with Rule K.21 due to the nature of the construction of its ground.

K.23. For UEFA Club Competitions the pitch must measure 105 metres in length by 68 metres in breadth exactly. If for technical reasons of a construction related nature it is impossible to achieve the required dimensions a UEFA Club Licence may nevertheless be granted provided that the pitch is minimum 100 metres to maximum 105 metres in length by minimum 64 metres to maximum 68 metres in breadth.

K.24. A Club shall register the dimensions of its pitch before the commencement of each Season by giving written notice thereof in Form 8 to the Secretary.

K.25. The Board may at any time require a Club to obtain and submit to the Secretary a report by an independent expert certifying its pitch dimensions.

K.26. No Club shall alter the dimensions of its pitch during the Season without the prior written consent of the Board.

K . 27. Each Club shall take all reasonable steps to maintain its pitch in good condition throughout the Season and the Board may require a Club to take such steps as the Board shall specify if it is not satisfied that the pitch is being maintained to an adequate standard.
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne » Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:12 pm

Dameerto wrote:
TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:
AG7 wrote:
TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:These 'lower level' teams always get stretched too much on our wide pitch.
It'll be a dawdle

Keep the faith


The whole 'wide pitch' is a myth I wonder why it still goes on ... from last season all pitches are same exact size so yes even stoke had to open up theirs and I think we had to shrink our sidelines a bit ... all 20 PL grounds now exactly the same size so get over it!


http://www.openplay.co.uk/blog/premiers ... 2012-2013/

According to the above, we had the widest pitch, and by 8 yards more than the narrowest - West Ham's
Where do you get your information from?


I heard several commentators and pundits refer to standard pitch sizes last season so went to check, there's a downloadable 'Premier League Handbook 2012/2013' which has a section on pitches (section K): (incidentally I think the RAGs were in breach of K.27. last season but nothing was done about it as far as I know)

SECTION K: GROUND CRITERIA
K.21. Unless otherwise permitted by the Board, in League Matches the length of the pitch shall be 105 metres and its breadth 68 metres.

K.22. The Board shall only give permission to a Club for the dimensions of its pitch to be other than as set out in Rule K.21 if it is impossible for it to comply with Rule K.21 due to the nature of the construction of its ground.

K.23. For UEFA Club Competitions the pitch must measure 105 metres in length by 68 metres in breadth exactly. If for technical reasons of a construction related nature it is impossible to achieve the required dimensions a UEFA Club Licence may nevertheless be granted provided that the pitch is minimum 100 metres to maximum 105 metres in length by minimum 64 metres to maximum 68 metres in breadth.

K.24. A Club shall register the dimensions of its pitch before the commencement of each Season by giving written notice thereof in Form 8 to the Secretary.

K.25. The Board may at any time require a Club to obtain and submit to the Secretary a report by an independent expert certifying its pitch dimensions.

K.26. No Club shall alter the dimensions of its pitch during the Season without the prior written consent of the Board.

K . 27. Each Club shall take all reasonable steps to maintain its pitch in good condition throughout the Season and the Board may require a Club to take such steps as the Board shall specify if it is not satisfied that the pitch is being maintained to an adequate standard.
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I was actually surprised to see Everton's (formerly) having the same width as ours: of course the overall impression you get would be depending on how close the stands are to the pitch, and also the width of the perimeter area.
Interesting that the directive you quote was only brought in last season, though..

As far as practricable pitch sizes should be identical, of course, but do all League and Championship sides have the capacity to have pitches of that dimension?
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby Dameerto » Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:27 pm

Some of the older grounds would probably have to be non-standard. I bet Loftus Road was last season.
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby AG7 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:39 pm

TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne wrote:
http://www.openplay.co.uk/blog/premiers ... 2012-2013/

According to the above, we had the widest pitch, and by 8 yards more than the narrowest - West Ham's
Where do you get your information from?


Obviously not an authentic source but just another blog ... as others have answered, it was all over news and each game especially Stoke games that commentators and pundits kept referring to how they have had to move their side lines right to the edge of their grounds to meet new standard pitch sizes by PL.

I'm on holiday and checking the forum on and off on my phone, will search up and find you authentic links when back in another week's time but am pretty certain this happened last year on. Yes, the year before, the title winning season, we did have a wider and longer pitch than the rest.
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:21 am

AG7 wrote:it was all over news and each game especially Stoke games that commentators and pundits kept referring to how they have had to move their side lines right to the edge of their grounds to meet new standard pitch sizes by PL.


Now you mention it I seem to recall commentators mentioning Stoke having changed the dimensions of their pitch but I don't recall any mention of a rigidity in pitch dimensions: I thought there was always a certain degree of flexibility, not least because of ground size
(and hasn't Wembley traditionally been larger than any other pitch, or has it had to conform, also?)
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby Moonchesteri » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:19 am

AG7 wrote:
Obviously not an authentic source but just another blog ... as others have answered, it was all over news and each game especially Stoke games that commentators and pundits kept referring to how they have had to move their side lines right to the edge of their grounds to meet new standard pitch sizes by PL.

I'm on holiday and checking the forum on and off on my phone, will search up and find you authentic links when back in another week's time but am pretty certain this happened last year on. Yes, the year before, the title winning season, we did have a wider and longer pitch than the rest.


Didn't Stoke have to change the size of their pitch because of UEFA's rules, not PL?
I'll have a couple of hours to kill soon while I'm at airport so I'll try to find facts either way.
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Re: next: hull city tigers

Postby SomeMichaelGuy » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:26 pm

Nasti fit for tomorrow it seems.
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