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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby john68 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:15 pm

Thanks for your reply Gary.
I have been watching the political movements at the top end of football for some time now and it concerns me deeply. Most fans seem to have viewed each "event/decision/change/political movement", (of the elite club) as separate but when put together, they reveal a continuous story of increasing control of the game particularly in Europe, that had its seeds in the 1980s and has continued ever since.

Personally, I am now of the view that the Elite are moving towards the next stage and clubs like the rags and Arsenal are ensuring their blokes are in the right places...to defend their gains and ensure they control the future. The next stage being the control of the Global game.
It is too easy to criticise the likes of Blatter and Platini, they are only figureheads. The real power lies in the committees behind them and it is there where the clubs have hugely increased their power. Blatter will go in the next few years and the chances are that Global power will shift back to Europe. Through the EuFA committees and the ECA, the elite clubs have got EuFA pretty well sewn up. Should global power shift to Europe with Platini (or similar puppet) head of FiFA, those elite clubs will be in prime position to rule the roost and financially clean up.

I'll post my thoughts on how this affects City separately.
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:24 pm

john68 wrote:Thanks for your reply Gary.
I have been watching the political movements at the top end of football for some time now and it concerns me deeply. Most fans seem to have viewed each "event/decision/change/political movement", (of the elite club) as separate but when put together, they reveal a continuous story of increasing control of the game particularly in Europe, that had its seeds in the 1980s and has continued ever since.

Personally, I am now of the view that the Elite are moving towards the next stage and clubs like the rags and Arsenal are ensuring their blokes are in the right places...to defend their gains and ensure they control the future. The next stage being the control of the Global game.
It is too easy to criticise the likes of Blatter and Platini, they are only figureheads. The real power lies in the committees behind them and it is there where the clubs have hugely increased their power. Blatter will go in the next few years and the chances are that Global power will shift back to Europe. Through the EuFA committees and the ECA, the elite clubs have got EuFA pretty well sewn up. Should global power shift to Europe with Platini (or similar puppet) head of FiFA, those elite clubs will be in prime position to rule the roost and financially clean up.

I'll post my thoughts on how this affects City separately.


question : why do you always refer to uefa as eufa?
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby Original Dub » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:43 pm

Question: Why do you feel the need to put the word "question" before a sentence that has a fucking question mark at the end of it?
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby john68 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:59 pm

Part Two....

From City's point of view, we have to stop considering what happens on the pitch in purely football terms and look at our position in terms of football politics andcommerce. Our club is in a unique position and what is happening behind the scenes is crucial to our future. Gary is correct to mention our geographical position because the power balance between us and the rags, is and will be critical. It is either/or, the rags or us. With our financial resources and the football infrastructure that is presently being built at the Etihad, I believe we will overtake them on the pitch (if we haven't already) and leave them behind. They will not be able to compete with us in football terms. That is almost inevitable.
The danger is commercially and politically. The rags are founder members of the elite clubs' club, have many powerful friends and good representation in the highest corridors of power. We are not in their League in that respect. It is only in the last few months that we became Full Members of the ECA, and who can forget the media hammering we took from Rummenigge (figurehead of the old G14 and now head of the ECA) not so long ago. Politically, we are relatively friendless. Commercially, weare improving massively but still lag miles behind the rags. Can you imagine a global game without the rags? But that is what we have to ensure happens and it is City who MUST replace them.

If we can't replace them, we MUST at least ensure we gain a position where they CANNOT leave us out.
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby Socrates » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:23 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
john68 wrote:Thanks for your reply Gary.
I have been watching the political movements at the top end of football for some time now and it concerns me deeply. Most fans seem to have viewed each "event/decision/change/political movement", (of the elite club) as separate but when put together, they reveal a continuous story of increasing control of the game particularly in Europe, that had its seeds in the 1980s and has continued ever since.

Personally, I am now of the view that the Elite are moving towards the next stage and clubs like the rags and Arsenal are ensuring their blokes are in the right places...to defend their gains and ensure they control the future. The next stage being the control of the Global game.
It is too easy to criticise the likes of Blatter and Platini, they are only figureheads. The real power lies in the committees behind them and it is there where the clubs have hugely increased their power. Blatter will go in the next few years and the chances are that Global power will shift back to Europe. Through the EuFA committees and the ECA, the elite clubs have got EuFA pretty well sewn up. Should global power shift to Europe with Platini (or similar puppet) head of FiFA, those elite clubs will be in prime position to rule the roost and financially clean up.

I'll post my thoughts on how this affects City separately.


question : why do you always refer to uefa as eufa?


I can recall reading the term EUFA (EUropean Fooball Association) as a kid, it became obselete as it developed into the Union of European Football Accociations (UEFA). I still get them confused sometimes too, must be an age thing.
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:46 pm

Original Dub wrote:Question: Why do you feel the need to put the word "question" before a sentence that has a fucking question mark at the end of it?


because i am a cunt
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby Evenmydoghatesunited » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:12 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote: question : why do you always refer to uefa as eufa?
Easy answer I'm guessing. Because the daft fuckers that are the cheese eating surrender monkeys French insist that their language is the true international one despite the fact that them, a third of Belgium, some of the Swiss and a few Africans speak it. And "as they invented all spor" they now are the bosses of it. And so UEFA stands for Union des associations européennes de football, FIFA for Fédération Internationale de Football Associations.

This goes beyond the games the frogs also didn't invent to all sorts of other areas including motor racing - Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) and even Fédération internationale des échecs or World Chess Federation.

The French truly are top of the list for the world's most outraged serial losers but we tolerate the daft twunts, because we are grown ups and we don't like to see children upset. So why EUFA? Possibly because in the language that us and most of the rest of the world can speak at least as a second language it might stand for European Union of football associations.

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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby patrickblue » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:50 pm

You know very well it was invented in China.
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby Original Dub » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:08 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
because i am a cunt


A very very good answer. Thank you.
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby Evenmydoghatesunited » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:10 pm

patrickblue wrote:You know very well it was invented in China.


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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby MilnersJaw » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:34 pm

Socrates wrote:
I can recall reading the term EUFA (EUropean Fooball Association) as a kid, it became obselete as it developed into the Union of European Football Accociations (UEFA). I still get them confused sometimes too, must be an age thing.


Nah, must be a clown thing.
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:46 pm

Evenmydoghatesunited wrote:
patrickblue wrote:You know very well it was invented in China.


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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:59 pm

Wonderwall wrote:ha ha ha, jst saw SSN say thet moyes is 2nd on the all time list of managers with the 2nd best win% in their first 8 games as a new manager...WTF? They do however, fail to mention that none of those managers inherited a title winning squad. Amazes me what they will do to try and keep the scum rag twats in a positive light.

Are we talkng Premier League era here and does it revolve around the Rags. 2nd would be a great feat ;-)

Also, does that mean Pellers is top?
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby london blue 2 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:05 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
Evenmydoghatesunited wrote:
patrickblue wrote:You know very well it was invented in China.


Yerrow card for you


fucking lacist

It racist, you plick!
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby kinkylola » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:47 am

sickening article on espn soccernet.com comparing phil jones to mariano fucking rivera. I know there are not a lot of baseball fans here, but i'll just tell you that rivera is considered probably the best closer in the history of the game. He is a shoe-in for the hall of fame as soon as he is eligible. phil. jones. They describe rivera as "just about the most reliable person you could look to if you ever needed a guaranteed result." and that is how they compare him to phil jones. fucking disgusting.

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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby gmercer1 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:56 am

kinkylola wrote:sickening article on espn soccernet.com comparing phil jones to mariano fucking rivera. I know there are not a lot of baseball fans here, but i'll just tell you that rivera is considered probably the best closer in the history of the game. He is a shoe-in for the hall of fame as soon as he is eligible. phil. jones. They describe rivera as "just about the most reliable person you could look to if you ever needed a guaranteed result." and that is how they compare him to phil jones. fucking disgusting.

[url="http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/manchesterunited/id/3000?cc=5901"]http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/manchesterunited/id/3000?cc=5901[/url]


Haha fuck me they are getting desperate. Have they seen the pic of him when Aguero is scoring :)))
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Re: rag pr machine...

Postby aaron bond » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:10 am

Evenmydoghatesunited wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote: question : why do you always refer to uefa as eufa?
Easy answer I'm guessing. Because the daft fuckers that are the cheese eating surrender monkeys French insist that their language is the true international one despite the fact that them, a third of Belgium, some of the Swiss and a few Africans speak it. And "as they invented all spor" they now are the bosses of it. And so UEFA stands for Union des associations européennes de football, FIFA for Fédération Internationale de Football Associations.

This goes beyond the games the frogs also didn't invent to all sorts of other areas including motor racing - Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) and even Fédération internationale des échecs or World Chess Federation.

The French truly are top of the list for the world's most outraged serial losers but we tolerate the daft twunts, because we are grown ups and we don't like to see children upset. So why EUFA? Possibly because in the language that us and most of the rest of the world can speak at least as a second language it might stand for European Union of football associations.

Were we involved in the creation of the game? Mai oui.


But UEFA stands for Union of European Football Associations...
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