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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Beeks » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:44 pm

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IanBishopsHaircut wrote:I expect Upson to be brought in for January and Lescott to be moved into left back.


And i think that would be a mistake.

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So do I...but I still think it will happen

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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Original Dub » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:47 pm

No, Kompany is barely cover for De Jong and should not be let anywhere near a defence that's played only 13 games together and are still trying to build a unit.

I've said it a shit load of times on here - Kompany has had ONE decent game as centre half for us and some think he's a fantastic defender.

Some even tried to tell me that Kompany is a better centre half than Richard Dunne!!

Remember that?

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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Dronny » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:47 pm

ant london wrote:You are very offensive....it's easy to take offence. I'd go as far as to say that doing so is rather enjoyable!!

haha

Ah ok, now I get where you're coming from. I don't disagree with the Hughes player part. I, myself, agree with whoever said (Dronnosaurus?) that he always strikes me as a touch ponderous.

I'd prefer us to sign some cover and establish who is our best partnership from the resources we have.

For the record, giving Toure the armband now seems a bit of an unwise move. I'd like Nedum to be tried there.....even give Micah another rinse....or A N Other new CB.

The question I cannot answer though is who would I make captain. Other than Shay there doesn't seem to be a single player who is nailed on to start every week.


You cheeky young fucler, I knew I should have jumped on Doomie when he wrote the same a week or so ago!!
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:19 pm

Dronny wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
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Colin the King wrote:Kompany is a good player but it's frightening watching him play in defence. When in midfield, he can get away with tugging at shirts and tackling recklessly but those things would likely end up in penalties and ultimately goals if he played in defence. I think he has plenty to offer- although yesterday wasn't one of his better moments- but in a midfield role. He has a lot of energy and passes the ball well.

Anyway, why does the Lescott witch-hunt continue? How about giving him a decent length of time to settle in. Why does there always have to be a scapegoat?

Cos I think if you buy a player for 20+ mill pounds he should be able to do what you paid all that money for.
Get better as time progresses, yes, but I think he should begin by playing at a high standard anyway.
All this it takes time is for the players the quality of Titus Bramble not somebody you want to take us to be champs.
He should be shit hot from day 1.


When you moved out to Alicante from GB were you fluent in Spanish the moment you got off the plane?


Somewhat tangential that innit.I didnt come to Spain to make a living therefore my level of Spanish was not an issue.Agree, but moved out there to live at a fair expense I'm assuming? Therefore I doubt you felt overly comfortable in new surroundings?
We have bought Joleon to be a high quality defender in which department he has been a little lacking.
I haven't criticised JL in any thread before ,I only did it in this because I dont accept this gelling theory as an excuse for poor performances.
I dont see the point of buying good players if they are gonna neeed time to bed in.How many goals did Anelka score for chelski in his 1st season?
As I said before I think they will get better the longer they are with us but to begin with the should be at a very high standard.
If to say hypothetically we were to get Kaka at Xmas,I would expect him to be exceptional from day 1 and the get better as time went on.He's hardly set Real Madrid alight has he?
Look at our Robson he was brilliant in his first game and has got better since then.
In his away games?


I've had no regrets about moving out here, ever,not even when I first got here.My Spanish is diabolical but with my wife and kids I get by. And I dont think it would be an issue to our players making the change to play for us as most of them are already settled there.
I think in Nico's first full year he scored 19 goals
Kaka has I think 2 goals and 3 assists so far this season which is ok and most of the Madrid fans I have spoken to say he doing alright.
Robson in away games is a matter of opinion.I find his away performances fine and do not see why he gets so much stick for them
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Original Dub » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:27 pm

Robinho has had one good away game for us in the premier league IMO - Everton last season.

For a record british signing, I would not have expected that he would spend so much time standing around in away games last season, to the point that I was SCREAMING at the TV for him to be taken off asap.

Actually, I recall at the time that the commentators and the pundits at half time tended to agree.... and everyone on here said the same thing...

What exactly impressed you about him in all those away games? I thought he was nothing short of lazy and uninterested.
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:31 pm

Original Dub wrote:Robinho has had one good away game for us in the premier league IMO - Everton last season.

For a record british signing, I would not have expected that he would spend so much time standing around in away games last season, to the point that I was SCREAMING at the TV for him to be taken off asap.

Actually, I recall at the time that the commentators and the pundits at half time tended to agree.... and everyone on here said the same thing...

What exactly impressed you about him in all those away games? I thought he was nothing short of lazy and uninterested.

Him doing the same as he did in the home games and the pundits spout of the what theyv'e read on here and know little about what happens for real IMO.
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:38 pm

Original Dub wrote:Robinho has had one good away game for us in the premier league IMO - Everton last season.

For a record british signing, I would not have expected that he would spend so much time standing around in away games last season, to the point that I was SCREAMING at the TV for him to be taken off asap.

Actually, I recall at the time that the commentators and the pundits at half time tended to agree.... and everyone on here said the same thing...

What exactly impressed you about him in all those away games? I thought he was nothing short of lazy and uninterested.


AT 20 ODD MILLION QUID FOR A DEFENDER I ALSO WOULDNT EXPECT HIM TO MAKE STUPID FUCKING MISTAKES DUB...BUT HE DOES!

I ACTUALLY THINK ROBBIE HAS PLAYED WELL....YOU HAVE TO REMEMEBR WHAT HE BRINGS TO THE TEAM..HE TAKES 3 FUCKING OPPOSING PLAYERS WITH HIM WHERE EVER HE GOES AS THEY KNOW WHAT DAMAGE HE CAN DO.....AND THAT GIVES US MORE OPTIONS.

I THINK THAT SOME FANS EXPECT HIM TO SCORE SHIT LOAD OF GOALS...BUT THE THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO HIS GAME THAN THAT.
I DO AGREE THAT HE CAN DO MORE - HE HAS BEEN INJURED FOR 3 MONTHS MIND SO I TENDO TO FORGIVE ANY SHORTCOMINGS.....FOR NOW.
THEY SAY SWEARING IS DUE TO A LIMITED VOCABULARY. I KNOW THOUSANDS OF WORDS, BUT I STILL PREFER "FUCK OFF" TO "GO AWAY"
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Original Dub » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:49 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Robinho has had one good away game for us in the premier league IMO - Everton last season.

For a record british signing, I would not have expected that he would spend so much time standing around in away games last season, to the point that I was SCREAMING at the TV for him to be taken off asap.

Actually, I recall at the time that the commentators and the pundits at half time tended to agree.... and everyone on here said the same thing...

What exactly impressed you about him in all those away games? I thought he was nothing short of lazy and uninterested.

Him doing the same as he did in the home games and the pundits spout of the what they've read on here and know little about what happens for real IMO.


Well, you're the stat man - but in my recollection his assists and goals in away matches as well as what I saw as a lack of interest in his all round play were what brought (almost) everyone to the conclusion that he disappears.

Obviously you saw some world class play - give me some examples and stats from the away games that brought you to your conclusion that he is just as good away as he is at home?
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Original Dub » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:53 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Robinho has had one good away game for us in the premier league IMO - Everton last season.

For a record british signing, I would not have expected that he would spend so much time standing around in away games last season, to the point that I was SCREAMING at the TV for him to be taken off asap.

Actually, I recall at the time that the commentators and the pundits at half time tended to agree.... and everyone on here said the same thing...

What exactly impressed you about him in all those away games? I thought he was nothing short of lazy and uninterested.


AT 20 ODD MILLION QUID FOR A DEFENDER I ALSO WOULDNT EXPECT HIM TO MAKE STUPID FUCKING MISTAKES DUB...BUT HE DOES!

I ACTUALLY THINK ROBBIE HAS PLAYED WELL....YOU HAVE TO REMEMEBR WHAT HE BRINGS TO THE TEAM..HE TAKES 3 FUCKING OPPOSING PLAYERS WITH HIM WHERE EVER HE GOES AS THEY KNOW WHAT DAMAGE HE CAN DO.....AND THAT GIVES US MORE OPTIONS.

I THINK THAT SOME FANS EXPECT HIM TO SCORE SHIT LOAD OF GOALS...BUT THE THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO HIS GAME THAN THAT.
I DO AGREE THAT HE CAN DO MORE - HE HAS BEEN INJURED FOR 3 MONTHS MIND SO I TENDO TO FORGIVE ANY SHORTCOMINGS.....FOR NOW.


Yeah but mate, if Lescott just walked around uninterested with his hands on his hips then we'd be quite a few goals down in the first ten minutes... Lescott can play poorly, but he could never get away with being a passenger.

I know exactly what you're saying about Robinho creating spaces for other players, but I haven't seen that in all but one away game. I'm not looking for loads of goals from him, but I honestly think there was a HUGE difference in his hime v his away performances and I'm baffles that one or two others think he was just as good away as he was at home!
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:49 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Robinho has had one good away game for us in the premier league IMO - Everton last season.

For a record british signing, I would not have expected that he would spend so much time standing around in away games last season, to the point that I was SCREAMING at the TV for him to be taken off asap.

Actually, I recall at the time that the commentators and the pundits at half time tended to agree.... and everyone on here said the same thing...

What exactly impressed you about him in all those away games? I thought he was nothing short of lazy and uninterested.

Him doing the same as he did in the home games and the pundits spout of the what they've read on here and know little about what happens for real IMO.


Well, you're the stat man - but in my recollection his assists and goals in away matches as well as what I saw as a lack of interest in his all round play were what brought (almost) everyone to the conclusion that he disappears.

Obviously you saw some world class play - give me some examples and stats from the away games that brought you to your conclusion that he is just as good away as he is at home?


On average Robson tries about 30 passes in a home game with about a 90% success rate and about 5 tackles
On average Robson tries about 30 passes in away games with about a 90% sucess rate and about 5 tackles.
This is according to the Guardian.
Watching him perform like this makes me think that the accusation that is laid at him for not turning up at away matches is somewhat inaccurate.
And he does all that skillfully and smiling most of the time.
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Original Dub » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:11 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Robinho has had one good away game for us in the premier league IMO - Everton last season.

For a record british signing, I would not have expected that he would spend so much time standing around in away games last season, to the point that I was SCREAMING at the TV for him to be taken off asap.

Actually, I recall at the time that the commentators and the pundits at half time tended to agree.... and everyone on here said the same thing...

What exactly impressed you about him in all those away games? I thought he was nothing short of lazy and uninterested.

Him doing the same as he did in the home games and the pundits spout of the what they've read on here and know little about what happens for real IMO.


Well, you're the stat man - but in my recollection his assists and goals in away matches as well as what I saw as a lack of interest in his all round play were what brought (almost) everyone to the conclusion that he disappears.

Obviously you saw some world class play - give me some examples and stats from the away games that brought you to your conclusion that he is just as good away as he is at home?


On average Robson tries about 30 passes in a home game with about a 90% success rate and about 5 tackles
On average Robson tries about 30 passes in away games with about a 90% sucess rate and about 5 tackles.
This is according to the Guardian.
Watching him perform like this makes me think that the accusation that is laid at him for not turning up at away matches is somewhat inaccurate.
And he does all that skillfully and smiling most of the time.


What that tells me is that he must be giving the simple pass rather than the more difficult....

What about the difference in the IMPORTANT stats, like goals and assists?
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:14 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Robinho has had one good away game for us in the premier league IMO - Everton last season.

For a record british signing, I would not have expected that he would spend so much time standing around in away games last season, to the point that I was SCREAMING at the TV for him to be taken off asap.

Actually, I recall at the time that the commentators and the pundits at half time tended to agree.... and everyone on here said the same thing...

What exactly impressed you about him in all those away games? I thought he was nothing short of lazy and uninterested.

Him doing the same as he did in the home games and the pundits spout of the what they've read on here and know little about what happens for real IMO.


Well, you're the stat man - but in my recollection his assists and goals in away matches as well as what I saw as a lack of interest in his all round play were what brought (almost) everyone to the conclusion that he disappears.

Obviously you saw some world class play - give me some examples and stats from the away games that brought you to your conclusion that he is just as good away as he is at home?


On average Robson tries about 30 passes in a home game with about a 90% success rate and about 5 tackles
On average Robson tries about 30 passes in away games with about a 90% sucess rate and about 5 tackles.
This is according to the Guardian.
Watching him perform like this makes me think that the accusation that is laid at him for not turning up at away matches is somewhat inaccurate.
And he does all that skillfully and smiling most of the time.


What that tells me is that he must be giving the simple pass rather than the more difficult....

What about the difference in the IMPORTANT stats, like goals and assists?


As you say it may be the simple pass and I'd agree he probably isn't as effective when playing away from home but I think it shows that he does try.
There is a stat that shows he was particularly active in the match against West Spam where he made over 45 successful passes and 9 tackles away from home.
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby gillie » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:33 pm

I thought this thread was about trying VK at centre half not Robbies contribution or lack of it in away games?.
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Original Dub » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:13 pm

gillie wrote:I thought this thread was about trying VK at centre half not Robbies contribution or lack of it in away games?.


Speaking of contribution - where's yours fucko?
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby edge275 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:20 pm

Original Dub wrote:
gillie wrote:I thought this thread was about trying VK at centre half not Robbies contribution or lack of it in away games?.


Speaking of contribution - where's yours fucko?


Are you aware how many passes Robinho made away from home? And his passing success rate?

90% you know.
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:29 pm

I'm not sure Kompany has had a good game for City yet. He looks really uncomfortable on the ball. Like the kid everyone picked last in PE
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:33 pm

LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:I'm not sure Kompany has had a good game for City yet. He looks really uncomfortable on the ball. Like the kid everyone picked last in PE



HERES 2 CRACKERS THAT YOUVE COME OUT WITH IN THE LAST 48 HRS.
BELLAMY DIVED.
KOMPANY HASNT HAD A GOOD GAME FOR CITY YET.



HERE,S A QUESTION - DO YOU ACTUALLY WATCH MAN CITY AT ALL OR DO YOU SAY THESE THINGS TO WIND PEOPLE UP?
THEY SAY SWEARING IS DUE TO A LIMITED VOCABULARY. I KNOW THOUSANDS OF WORDS, BUT I STILL PREFER "FUCK OFF" TO "GO AWAY"
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby gillie » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:34 pm

Original Dub wrote:
gillie wrote:I thought this thread was about trying VK at centre half not Robbies contribution or lack of it in away games?.


Speaking of contribution - where's yours fucko?

Ronan swivel mate lol.
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby Original Dub » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:43 pm

gillie wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
gillie wrote:I thought this thread was about trying VK at centre half not Robbies contribution or lack of it in away games?.


Speaking of contribution - where's yours fucko?

Ronan swivel mate lol.


:))

Robinho scores fuck all and has fuck all MEANINGFUL contribution in away matches to date. That's the top and bottom of it, no matter what kind of fancy frock you put on it.

Kompany had a few good games in Midfield but always got found out when up against the top sides. And he's been wank in defence bar one fucking game I can think of. Not that anyone asked but if you ask me, he's the most over-rated of all of Hughes' buys.

Folk tried to tell me that Kompany was a better centre half than Dunne. Just like some have tried to tell me Tevez is like Vassell.

Now CARL if you want to find something fucking hilarious, have a howl at those cunt and tell me that they've been watching City play closely!!
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Re: Try Kompany centre back?

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:47 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:I'm not sure Kompany has had a good game for City yet. He looks really uncomfortable on the ball. Like the kid everyone picked last in PE



HERES 2 CRACKERS THAT YOUVE COME OUT WITH IN THE LAST 48 HRS.
BELLAMY DIVED.
KOMPANY HASNT HAD A GOOD GAME FOR CITY YET.



HERE,S A QUESTION - DO YOU ACTUALLY WATCH MAN CITY AT ALL OR DO YOU SAY THESE THINGS TO WIND PEOPLE UP?

No. I sit in a fucking casino in some south American shithole and occasionally catch a glimpse of Match of The Day when in-between picking fucking fights with people on the internet by slating their views without a valid argument.
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