Alex Sapphire wrote:Herb wrote:
Your guiding premis is wrong because racism is what is perceived in the main and cultural differences mean that there are as many perceptions as there are cultures and a myriad of minor nuances between. I jest not when I say that it isn't black and white.
Different cultures develop at different speeds and I'd guess that, as a comparator, Russia is probably where the UK was in the early 1970's . . . we can look back and know that our national attitude was unacceptedly racist at that time (the BBC was openly racist), we can note that we've made changes for the better since but we have not erradicated racism from the UK . . as you will note when you read all the anti-muslim sentiment presently put out by our own government never mind the BNP etc.
It's easy to see that the CSKA management are wrong in what they say but their opinions are flavoured by the national attitude in Russia and that's where their fault lies but I feel that will improve with the media focus of the world cup and, in any event, they actually shine compared to some USA states where racism remains culturally embeded even now.
Name those states would you Herb
Moonchesteri wrote:Surprised to see Clichy in there, Kolarov has been superior player so far this season. and it's at home where he's at his best too while usually I think Gael is more reliable away.
shame for Lescott, imo he would've deserved to play either today or last Sat.
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
I take it that post was in response to mine? What the fuck any if that has to do with what I asked is beyond me.
Anyhoo, come on City, let's give these cunts a jolly good rogering.
Herb wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:What gets me about the whole racism issue is the exaggeration claims. They deny it happened and then say it was exaggerated, if something didn't happen then how can you exaggerate it? How does one exaggerate racism anyway? it's either racism or it isn't.
Your guiding premis is wrong because racism is what is perceived in the main and cultural differences mean that there are as many perceptions as there are cultures and a myriad of minor nuances between. I jest not when I say that it isn't black and white.
Different cultures develop at different speeds and I'd guess that, as a comparator, Russia is probably where the UK was in the early 1970's . . . we can look back and know that our national attitude was unacceptedly racist at that time (the BBC was openly racist), we can note that we've made changes for the better since but we have not erradicated racism from the UK . . as you will note when you read all the anti-muslim sentiment presently put out by our own government never mind the BNP etc.
It's easy to see that the CSKA management are wrong in what they say but their opinions are flavoured by the national attitude in Russia and that's where their fault lies but I feel that will improve with the media focus of the world cup and, in any event, they actually shine compared to some USA states where racism remains culturally embeded even now.
MilnersJaw wrote:Well what a surprise lescott is on the bench. Why did people seriously think he was being rested to play this game is beyond me...
If nasti isn't injured regardless of how poor he's been, he plays no matter what. Lescott is there for cup games.
Twobob wrote:MilnersJaw wrote:Well what a surprise lescott is on the bench. Why did people seriously think he was being rested to play this game is beyond me...
If nasti isn't injured regardless of how poor he's been, he plays no matter what. Lescott is there for cup games.
I do agree that Lescott should be given a chance to play alongside the long haired one, it's refreshing to see an unchanged side for once!
CTID Hants wrote:Stupid Q, just got in from work are we on the box? If not anyone can PM me a Joan? Cheers
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