AVB Gone!

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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby sheblue » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:05 pm

Capello sky are bladdering on about lol.
Hope Harry stays where is.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Lee_R » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:17 pm

Ffs Harry written all over it but I think Pochettino would do well there.

AVB was a bit unlucky as I dont believe they were really his signings. Theyre all knobs at Tottenham though so they deserve everything that happens to them.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Chinners » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:28 pm

Levy ain't like Sugar, no way will he backtrack and get Twitchy back.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:00 pm

Sideshow Bob wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:Laudrup or Hoddle till seasons end.

De Boer from Ajax is a great shout if they could get him. Mancini would have given them what they crave too - CL footy & trophies.

Have a couple of mates who are Spurs Season Ticket holders and both text me last night to say he has to go after the showing yesterday. The ground had emptied with 15 mins to go and the atmosphere was apparently awful - one of resignation from the fans. When that happens, chairman have to act.


He was a shocking appointment in the first place. How Spurs got through early season without conceding goals was absolutely baffling me. We put it right & they have just bullshitted their way through a few games until the next inevitable beating. The problem for the next manager is that AVB has pissed away the transfer budget on mostly nothing players.


They have some talent, unfortunately. A decent mgr and change of tactics could easily make them a contender for T4, if not the title. Wish agent AVB had been given more time.


Well it's all about opinions.

For me they have signed a bunch of mid table midfield players who don't compliment each other apart from Erikson, who has potential. The keeper is a fucking headcase, Soldado is a top footballer but like Garcia, looks out of his zone in the Prem.

The players they already had are mostly shit; Lennon, Walker, the ridiculously overrated Townsend, Dawson is a catastrophically inept centre back.

I actually worry more about Defoe than any of the fuckers AVB signed & he couldn't get a game.

Shocking manager but a hell of a job to get them anything other than mid table.

Martin Jol would get them relegated comfortably.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:08 pm

I've disliked Spurs since 1981, not for winning the cup but for being such t****s about it. Disliked them even more with Redknapp in charge. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch. Stick that in your Chaz and Dave.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Tesl » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:35 pm

I'm finding it hard to muster an opinion on this one. Managers should get far more time than they are given, but AVB was doing quite rubbish so who knows if its the right decision or not.

I came across this comment on reddit earlier which gave me a chuckle, maybe sums up Spurs quite well: http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments ... st/cb7uf7t

If I were answering this question as a strict neutral and without the extraneous circumstances I will come to describe in my next paragraph, I would have very little against Tottenham Hotspur as an organisation. They are exceptionally well-run, they have players that a neutral couldn't really dislike and I cannot help but admire Levy's brutish approach to business.
However, I absolutely cannot stand the fans of Tottenham Hotspur FC. They are almost all, to a man, Essex wideboys with the most absurd delusions of grandeur. Tottenham Hotspur are not one of the giants of the Premier League. Tottenham Hotspur are basically the Everton of the South with a much less historic success. How often do you find Everton fans crowing about the chance that they might possibly, maybe finish fourth? For all of Spurs fans' crowing about how good they are, fourth place is literally their sole ambition and has been since 2005/6. Of course the problem for them is that when their boasting (in vile Estuary English accent of course) reaches its highest there are usually two months of the season left to play.
Then comes the descent. They know they're going to fuck it up. They've done it so many times over the past few years. Only in recent history we have lasagne-gate, being seven points ahead of Arsenal and fucking it up and of course most hilariously, actually finishing fourth but getting shunted out because Chelsea won the European Cup. For all the hilarious in ways in which they've failed over the years, I suppose you cannot help but admire the tenacity and chutzpah of their fans. They aren't Newcastle - there isn't a forboding sense of doom that things will inevitably go wrong (which is usually spot on, let's be honest). They have the utmost belief that this time it will be different. Yet they don't keep their heads down and hope for the best. Out they come in February, giving it large to all their Arsenal and Chelsea mates about how good they are. Yet where are they come May? Fifth. Again.
There is something ethereal in the typical Tottenham fan's psyche that irritates me immensely. I cannot describe it and I don't think that I've articulated it well enough here but maybe one day I'll put a decent amount of thought into it and provide a better response.
As for why Tottenham over other clubs?
Arsenal are pretty much a shell of what they once were. I used to hate them because Chelsea would never beat them. Now they're pretty much the most ambitionless team in England. Finish fourth, finish above Tottenham and go out in the last 16 of the Champions League. Every season. They're pathetic, really. The decline for a team that had Vieira, Adams etc (a team that could play, but also had an immensely large pair of bollocks) is sad. Arsenal were a team that people feared and now? Their fans have followed the decline of their team. Where they used to be immensely cocky and back it up now they're pretty much like their team. A soft touch.
West Ham have gone down enough over the past decade that I don't really find it hilarious anymore. Yes, I find it funny, but not enough to want to make it my bucket list desire.
The rest of the London clubs I couldn't give two shits about. Although QPR going down was very amusing.
tl;dr: fuck off Spurs you cunts.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Chinners » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:00 pm

I reckon Spurs will go for Zola now he's just resigned at Watford.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Breks » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:25 pm

Chinners wrote:I reckon Spurs will go for Zola now he's just resigned at Watford.


He resigned due to a poor run of results, so why would spurs want him?
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:25 pm

The biggest problem imo was the fact they didn't replace Bale.
Rather than go for one or two truly world class players, they bought 7 decent ones. But they just don't have a goal threat this year.
They absolutely wasted the money they received for him.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby bigblue » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:43 pm

Frank de Boar would be a good shout.

I don't know why AVB thought the high-line defense would work with lumbering CBs, especially after it failed miserably at Chelsea. In fact, it seemed that he learned nothing from his time at Cheslea.....

....besides how to pick up years worth of pay in a matter of months. Between the two clubs, he's received over £16million (£12mil at chelsea and 4.5 at spuds) for less than a year's combined work!!!! At this rate, he's more an brilliant con-man than football manager.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:02 pm

bigblue wrote:Frank de Boar would be a good shout.

I don't know why AVB thought the high-line defense would work with lumbering CBs, especially after it failed miserably at Chelsea. In fact, it seemed that he learned nothing from his time at Cheslea.....

....besides how to pick up years worth of pay in a matter of months. Between the two clubs, he's received over £16million (£12mil at chelsea and 4.5 at spuds) for less than a year's combined work!!!! At this rate, he's more an brilliant con-man than football manager.


He just needs to speak to an ex-Spurs manager about tax free investments.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Chopper » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:53 pm

Best win percentage of spuds managers since 92. Maybe they should have given him a little more time. Read a while back that Levy has the patience of a teenager on adderall. No doubt he will be a success in Portugal/Spain when he returns.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby sheblue » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:25 pm

It's one hell of a mess now.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby budfox » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:47 pm

I often feel that sacking the manager is just a quick and easy manoeuvre to appease the fans.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Spurge » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:54 pm

Chopper wrote:Best win percentage of spuds managers since 92. Maybe they should have given him a little more time. Read a while back that Levy has the patience of a teenager on adderall. No doubt he will be a success in Portugal/Spain when he returns.


A very poor decision. When you make as many changes to the squad as Spurs did it's going to take time for them to bed in - especially as most of them had not played in the premiership before.

So they lost to us and Liverpool heavily - they were well placed to compete for a top 4 place, are in the QF's of the League cup and had a 100% record in the Europa League, yes he had to go didn't he.

I hope Levy fucks it up again.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Twobob » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:57 pm

Well Zola has resigned from Watford - citing 5 defeats as the reason. Could it be really that he's going to roll into Spurs in some capacity?

Anyone they do get will have to slot into their 'director of football' style management team they put in place, so its conceivable that AVB didn't have much say on the players that were brought in.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby dazby » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:25 pm

I think Spuds bought really well. It's just the system that didn't work.

The next manager will get them going, no fear.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:37 pm

Levy and Baldini needed him gone. They fucked up the summer window and they know it. AVB as much of an arrogant twat as he seems isn't to blame fully for their struggles IMHO.

That said.... Hope they continue to flame out and burn white hot shit. Hate them to bits. Cuntholes.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:44 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:Levy and Baldini needed him gone. They fucked up the summer window and they know it. AVB as much of an arrogant twat as he seems isn't to blame fully for their struggles IMHO.

That said.... Hope they continue to flame out and burn white hot shit. Hate them to bits. Cuntholes.


I remember when AVB arrived at Chelsea; in one of his early press conferences, he mentioned stuff like how he tells the players that they should never pass the ball square, but at an angle, because if they pass it square, then it goes straight accross the path of the opposition player & they could potentially give the ball away. The press were mighty impressed.

I immediately put him down as a phoney, lucky, fucking turd.
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Re: AVB Gone!

Postby Green & Blue » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:54 pm

dazby wrote:I think Spuds bought really well. It's just the system that didn't work.

The next manager will get them going, no fear.


I think over the summer the general consensus was that they had invested the money well but for some reason its all went pear shaped and the manager has to be held accountable.The defence has been especially bad when you consider how well they operated last season.Last season they conceded 46 goals in all and after only 16 games they have leaked 33 already this season.Soldado so far has been very poor in the league I don't think anyone would have predicted that.I thought Avb did reasonably well last season to the extent that I felt Chelsea just might have acted too quick getting rid.He's still a very young manager so maybe he will learn from this but his stock has dropped again big time the way things have panned out at Spurs.
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