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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby Slim » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:20 am

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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:22 am

Slim wrote:Not everyone Ted, not everyone.



Alright 'many' then.
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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby Tokyo Blue » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:28 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Slim wrote:Not everyone Ted, not everyone.

Alright 'many' then.

Fewer than you would think, perhaps.
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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby Twobob » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:24 am

Tokyo Blue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Slim wrote:Not everyone Ted, not everyone.

Alright 'many' then.

Fewer than you would think, perhaps.


A little fewer than that. A defender to play in a defensive possition is first, any defender should be able to fill in at RB - just have to have someone in front of them like Milner who can help cover and drive forward as you wouldnt want a temp RB bombing forward at the wrong time.

What was noticable against Fulham is when Riise had the run of that side of the park, Cliche pretty much had two players to contend with. As soon as we brought Navas on it either pegged Riise back taking pressure off Cliche, or Riise was left in a forward possition and Navas scored - so in that situation having a more attacking player in front of Cliche meant Cliche didnt need to get forward to help in any attack (as before then we had little width without him forward) and it screwed the LB over.

James would be wasted in RB, and 'filling in' for 5 or 10 mins while the RB is off the pitch or wandering off somewere - which seems to be what most people are basing thier idea on, is totally different than playing there for 90 mins.
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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby Slim » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:37 am

I think I'd be more comfortable with Boyata at right back than any of our current options. Which is not to say I think he's any good, I just think we have a very shallow pool when it comes to fullbacks.
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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:23 pm

Slim wrote:I think I'd be more comfortable with Boyata at right back than any of our current options. Which is not to say I think he's any good, I just think we have a very shallow pool when it comes to fullbacks.


The proper version of Clichy would be fine, but he can't play left back either this season. I'd (reluctantly) go with Boyata, but I think the Count will play Clichy again, as technically the goal wasn't actually his fault, he just fell over whilst covering a mistake by Demichelis, plus most of the threats came down the other side where Kolarov wasn't.
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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:17 pm

I'll raise my hand and say that if the Count won't play James as a central MF and push Silva or Nasri up to pair the Beast then I want Milner at RB over Boyata.

I don't buy the argument that he can't organize around him so that we can have his attacking presence felt down the right.
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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:14 pm

Whoever gets the nod will need to have a good engine as liverpool will be playing johnson at left back. Whilst he is a shit defender, he has a great engine and is a threat going forward.
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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:25 pm

Wonderwall wrote:Whoever gets the nod will need to have a good engine as liverpool will be playing johnson at left back. Whilst he is a shit defender, he has a great engine and is a threat going forward.


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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby City64 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:30 pm

I reckon Zabba will be ready boxing day ....... hard as fuck that lad !
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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby sheblue » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:37 pm

Wonderwall wrote:Whoever gets the nod will need to have a good engine as liverpool will be playing johnson at left back. Whilst he is a shit defender, he has a great engine and is a threat going forward.


This is a reason why Milner should be there, boyata would be too risky against him, but its pointless as clichy will start.
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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby Twobob » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:07 pm

sheblue wrote: This is a reason why Milner should be there, boyata would be too risky against him, but its pointless as clichy will start.


What 90 minute session has he done in defence to say he'd be better at RB?

Now in front of Boyata or Cliche i agree - peg Johnson back in his own half and make it a risk for him to come forward and you negate his attack. We're shit defending so defend using attack.

5 man midfield is the key to protecting the back four, reduce how much we rely on the RB to cone forward and we'll be cool.
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Re: Milner the utility man

Postby sheblue » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:34 am

The utility man is 28 today.
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