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Re: The Run In.

Postby Crossie » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:46 am

Liverpool need to win all there remain games which would put them on a 14 game winning streak, something only done once in the Premier League by Arsenal.

They will falter, but will we?

Our form is good, scoring, not conceding, players in form and star players coming back from injury. We can afford 2 away draws, even a loss because its extremely unlikely Liverpool will win all their remaining games. Liverpools goal difference is a worry, but we're still ahead with 2 games in hand.

Gerard is also 1 yellow away from a 2 game ban, one game would be vs us. Cards do get wiped in April, not sure if its from now or next week.......

Its going to be tight! Fantastic that it doesn't involve United either.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:05 am

Crossie wrote:Liverpool need to win all there remain games which would put them on a 14 game winning streak, something only done once in the Premier League by Arsenal.

They will falter, but will we?

Our form is good, scoring, not conceding, players in form and star players coming back from injury. We can afford 2 away draws, even a loss because its extremely unlikely Liverpool will win all their remaining games. Liverpools goal difference is a worry, but we're still ahead with 2 games in hand.

Gerard is also 1 yellow away from a 2 game ban, one game would be vs us. Cards do get wiped in April, not sure if its from now or next week.......

Its going to be tight! Fantastic that it doesn't involve United either.


Only about a week ago, people were talking about how Mourinho 'knows how to close out a title' as if Chelsea would win all their games & we couldn't drop any points at all. I pointed out then, that even when Mourinho did win titles, they dropped points away from home at places like Birmingham.

Their loss at Palace doesn't rule them out & neither would a similar daft defeat for City.

Shit happens at this stage, usually to every team involved.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:15 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Crossie wrote:Liverpool need to win all there remain games which would put them on a 14 game winning streak, something only done once in the Premier League by Arsenal.

They will falter, but will we?

Our form is good, scoring, not conceding, players in form and star players coming back from injury. We can afford 2 away draws, even a loss because its extremely unlikely Liverpool will win all their remaining games. Liverpools goal difference is a worry, but we're still ahead with 2 games in hand.

Gerard is also 1 yellow away from a 2 game ban, one game would be vs us. Cards do get wiped in April, not sure if its from now or next week.......

Its going to be tight! Fantastic that it doesn't involve United either.


Only about a week ago, people were talking about how Mourinho 'knows how to close out a title' as if Chelsea would win all their games & we couldn't drop any points at all. I pointed out then, that even when Mourinho did win titles, they dropped points away from home at places like Birmingham.

Their loss at Palace doesn't rule them out & neither would a similar daft defeat for City.

Shit happens at this stage, usually to every team involved.


Maybe, closing this out will be crucial, if we beat the dippers, I hope that would be us in control as they may then slump. They seem to be playing on emotion, which can ebb away rapid after a defeat.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:28 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Crossie wrote:Liverpool need to win all there remain games which would put them on a 14 game winning streak, something only done once in the Premier League by Arsenal.

They will falter, but will we?

Our form is good, scoring, not conceding, players in form and star players coming back from injury. We can afford 2 away draws, even a loss because its extremely unlikely Liverpool will win all their remaining games. Liverpools goal difference is a worry, but we're still ahead with 2 games in hand.

Gerard is also 1 yellow away from a 2 game ban, one game would be vs us. Cards do get wiped in April, not sure if its from now or next week.......

Its going to be tight! Fantastic that it doesn't involve United either.


Only about a week ago, people were talking about how Mourinho 'knows how to close out a title' as if Chelsea would win all their games & we couldn't drop any points at all. I pointed out then, that even when Mourinho did win titles, they dropped points away from home at places like Birmingham.

Their loss at Palace doesn't rule them out & neither would a similar daft defeat for City.

Shit happens at this stage, usually to every team involved.


Maybe, closing this out will be crucial, if we beat the dippers, I hope that would be us in control as they may then slump. They seem to be playing on emotion, which can ebb away rapid after a defeat.


Exactly.

Liverpool have been on a quite incredible carnival ride with not one ounce of pressure. Much of that is down to their huge media machine full of ex players etc who have all basically been saying, as one, that Liverpool don't have a chance of winning the league.

Almost every game for them has been like an end of season jolly, where defeat doesn't matter, as they are not actually 'losing' anything, because they never had a chance. But there have been the signs, in games such as Sunderland, where a cruise suddenly becomes a struggle & it suddenly dawns on them that their dreams could disappear with one deflected corner kick.

I'm not sure those nerves will surface v City, as that's a one off 'go for it' match. But it wouldn't surprise me if they suddenly dropped a huge bollock in one of the away games, & that was basically them finished.

Also if I had to bet, I would put my money on Chelsea getting at least a draw there.

A defeat at Anfield won't kill us off imo, for those reasons but anything but a win v City may well kill them off.

I'm actually worried about this game coming v Southampton. They have players who can hurt us. I just hope our strikers perform better than they did at their place.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:32 am

Not sure what you're all going on about - I listened to the radio last night and Liverpool has already won it. Not sure when the trophy is presented, but I assume we'll give them a guard of honour when we play them.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Im_Spartacus » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:38 am

Crossie wrote:Liverpool need to win all there remain games which would put them on a 14 game winning streak, something only done once in the Premier League by Arsenal.

They will falter, but will we?

Our form is good, scoring, not conceding, players in form and star players coming back from injury. We can afford 2 away draws, even a loss because its extremely unlikely Liverpool will win all their remaining games. Liverpools goal difference is a worry, but we're still ahead with 2 games in hand.

Gerard is also 1 yellow away from a 2 game ban, one game would be vs us. Cards do get wiped in April, not sure if its from now or next week.......

Its going to be tight! Fantastic that it doesn't involve United either.


Even Arsenal didn't manage that in one season, the 14 wins were spread over 2 seasons I think. It's completely unheard of for a team to win all 14 remaining games.

If they do it, I would happily concede we have been done by a better team
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:43 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Crossie wrote:Liverpool need to win all there remain games which would put them on a 14 game winning streak, something only done once in the Premier League by Arsenal.

They will falter, but will we?

Our form is good, scoring, not conceding, players in form and star players coming back from injury. We can afford 2 away draws, even a loss because its extremely unlikely Liverpool will win all their remaining games. Liverpools goal difference is a worry, but we're still ahead with 2 games in hand.

Gerard is also 1 yellow away from a 2 game ban, one game would be vs us. Cards do get wiped in April, not sure if its from now or next week.......

Its going to be tight! Fantastic that it doesn't involve United either.


Only about a week ago, people were talking about how Mourinho 'knows how to close out a title' as if Chelsea would win all their games & we couldn't drop any points at all. I pointed out then, that even when Mourinho did win titles, they dropped points away from home at places like Birmingham.

Their loss at Palace doesn't rule them out & neither would a similar daft defeat for City.

Shit happens at this stage, usually to every team involved.


Maybe, closing this out will be crucial, if we beat the dippers, I hope that would be us in control as they may then slump. They seem to be playing on emotion, which can ebb away rapid after a defeat.


Exactly.

Liverpool have been on a quite incredible carnival ride with not one ounce of pressure. Much of that is down to their huge media machine full of ex players etc who have all basically been saying, as one, that Liverpool don't have a chance of winning the league.

Almost every game for them has been like an end of season jolly, where defeat doesn't matter, as they are not actually 'losing' anything, because they never had a chance. But there have been the signs, in games such as Sunderland, where a cruise suddenly becomes a struggle & it suddenly dawns on them that their dreams could disappear with one deflected corner kick.

I'm not sure those nerves will surface v City, as that's a one off 'go for it' match. But it wouldn't surprise me if they suddenly dropped a huge bollock in one of the away games, & that was basically them finished.

Also if I had to bet, I would put my money on Chelsea getting at least a draw there.

A defeat at Anfield won't kill us off imo, for those reasons but anything but a win v City may well kill them off.

I'm actually worried about this game coming v Southampton. They have players who can hurt us. I just hope our strikers perform better than they did at their place.



I said it Saturday night, we lack the killer DNA, Finish the game in 10 mins at both the swamp and the Arse. If we get openings you have to nail them. Scousers will cause us problems, so chances will have to be taken when they come, On the other hand if they beat us I have them smashing Jose, who could be battered this week by a very good PSG, I suppose Tevez, is a miss now, games like the scousers would be perfect for him. Fearless, hopefull we have moved on and the squad will do it when it matters and boy will it matter.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:51 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Crossie wrote:Liverpool need to win all there remain games which would put them on a 14 game winning streak, something only done once in the Premier League by Arsenal.

They will falter, but will we?

Our form is good, scoring, not conceding, players in form and star players coming back from injury. We can afford 2 away draws, even a loss because its extremely unlikely Liverpool will win all their remaining games. Liverpools goal difference is a worry, but we're still ahead with 2 games in hand.

Gerard is also 1 yellow away from a 2 game ban, one game would be vs us. Cards do get wiped in April, not sure if its from now or next week.......

Its going to be tight! Fantastic that it doesn't involve United either.


Only about a week ago, people were talking about how Mourinho 'knows how to close out a title' as if Chelsea would win all their games & we couldn't drop any points at all. I pointed out then, that even when Mourinho did win titles, they dropped points away from home at places like Birmingham.

Their loss at Palace doesn't rule them out & neither would a similar daft defeat for City.

Shit happens at this stage, usually to every team involved.


Maybe, closing this out will be crucial, if we beat the dippers, I hope that would be us in control as they may then slump. They seem to be playing on emotion, which can ebb away rapid after a defeat.


Exactly.

Liverpool have been on a quite incredible carnival ride with not one ounce of pressure. Much of that is down to their huge media machine full of ex players etc who have all basically been saying, as one, that Liverpool don't have a chance of winning the league.

Almost every game for them has been like an end of season jolly, where defeat doesn't matter, as they are not actually 'losing' anything, because they never had a chance. But there have been the signs, in games such as Sunderland, where a cruise suddenly becomes a struggle & it suddenly dawns on them that their dreams could disappear with one deflected corner kick.

I'm not sure those nerves will surface v City, as that's a one off 'go for it' match. But it wouldn't surprise me if they suddenly dropped a huge bollock in one of the away games, & that was basically them finished.

Also if I had to bet, I would put my money on Chelsea getting at least a draw there.

A defeat at Anfield won't kill us off imo, for those reasons but anything but a win v City may well kill them off.

I'm actually worried about this game coming v Southampton. They have players who can hurt us. I just hope our strikers perform better than they did at their place.



I said it Saturday night, we lack the killer DNA, Finish the game in 10 mins at both the swamp and the Arse. If we get openings you have to nail them. Scousers will cause us problems, so chances will have to be taken when they come, On the other hand if they beat us I have them smashing Jose, who could be battered this week by a very good PSG, I suppose Tevez, is a miss now, games like the scousers would be perfect for him. Fearless, hopefull we have moved on and the squad will do it when it matters and boy will it matter.


It's our missing link I think.

If last years' rags team had gone one up v Arsenal on Saturday, it would have finished 3 or 4. Sometimes we find a way of drifting out of the game. We did the same at the swamp & let them into the game. That's not happened just this season, it's every season. Sometimes we just don't start games. But we have a level, others can't reach.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:02 am

Drifting and not getting back to the level during some games happens, I said watching Barca beat Madrid, the Madrid side will still be thinking how did that happen. however with top forwards like Messi you can get done in a flash,We need to be the team that is razor sharp with chances taken, scaring them into changing the game, I agree Saints will be tough, as they are care free with talent and pace.
Counter attack will be my worry with the dippers, switch off and they might cause us nightmares from the loss of the ball we need to be cute and savvy all the game.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:18 am

Hazy2 wrote:Drifting and not getting back to the level during some games happens, I said watching Barca beat Madrid, the Madrid side will still be thinking how did that happen. however with top forwards like Messi you can get done in a flash,We need to be the team that is razor sharp with chances taken, scaring them into changing the game, I agree Saints will be tough, as they are care free with talent and pace.
Counter attack will be my worry with the dippers, switch off and they might cause us nightmares from the loss of the ball we need to be cute and savvy all the game.


I would be happy enough if the Count played at Anfield like we did home to Barca PROVIDED we have some pace in the team & we pass the ball out of defence properly. They need the win, we don't. Draw them out & kill them off.

I would tell someone like Aguero to follow Gerrard around when we lose the ball. Stop him playing & mug him for the ball when they are all forward out of position.

Originally the Count swore blind that we didn't 'do' tactics as such, just our own thing. But then blew that wide open v Barca. Well imo, if he gets his tactics right at Anfield, our biggest danger is purely the ref, because we can both stop them scoring & hit them for shedloads at the other end. But it wouldn't surprise me if he just goes cavallier again.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Alioune DVToure » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:03 pm

I'd like to see something like this against Liverpool:

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Solid through the core and with good counter-attacking potential. They walked through Spurs at times; we need to bully them in the middle of the park.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby budfox » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:07 pm

Daily Mash nails it as ever:

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Re: The Run In.

Postby Dubciteh » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:08 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:I'd like to see something like this against Liverpool:

------------------------------------Hart

Zab--------------Kompany---------------Demi/Lezzer------------Clichy/Kola

-----------------------------Garcia--------Ferni

----------------Silva---------------Yaya----------------Milner

--------------------------------Aguero/Dzeko

Solid through the core and with good counter-attacking potential. They walked through Spurs at times; we need to bully them in the middle of the park.


yeah me too, they are set up as a counter attacking team if we go gung ho at them it will leave us wide open and play into their hands. 4-5-1 make it hard and then pick them off, similar to what chelsea did to us. A draw is a great result assuming we dont slip up elsewhere.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:25 pm

this will be a game we need to be in going into the last 10 mins that will decide the result, They need the win and we can exploit that with Kun, 0-1 if we get it right.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby City64 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:10 pm

One game at a time and let's just concentrate on getting 3 points on Saturday against Southampton . Liverpool will very soon feel the extreme pressure of being top of the league so near the end of the season , it happened to us not too long ago but we held it all together and won the last six games , I personally can't see the scousers and especially there fans being able to handle it from now on in .
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:14 am

City64 wrote:One game at a time and let's just concentrate on getting 3 points on Saturday against Southampton . Liverpool will very soon feel the extreme pressure of being top of the league so near the end of the season , it happened to us not too long ago but we held it all together and won the last six games , I personally can't see the scousers and especially there fans being able to handle it from now on in .


And when we beat the scousers, we might not see the happy clappers after the game, It might be a whole lot different getting away from the Home of football !
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:24 am

Hazy2 wrote:
City64 wrote:One game at a time and let's just concentrate on getting 3 points on Saturday against Southampton . Liverpool will very soon feel the extreme pressure of being top of the league so near the end of the season , it happened to us not too long ago but we held it all together and won the last six games , I personally can't see the scousers and especially there fans being able to handle it from now on in .


And when we beat the scousers, we might not see the happy clappers after the game, It might be a whole lot different getting away from the Home of football !


Something many on here have yet to experience by the sound of it.

Just looking at the fixtures, we play Palace on April 27, same day Liverpool play Chelsea.

That would be a good day to produce a title winning performance. Come out of that on top, & we have 3 games left whilst they have two.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby mcfc1632 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:33 am

I worry that seeming obsession with redscouse is allowing the game at the weekend to 'go under the radar'.

We will have to be at our best to beat the Saints - anything less than absolute focus could easily see us drop points
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Re: The Run In.

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:59 am

mcfc1632 wrote:I worry that seeming obsession with redscouse is allowing the game at the weekend to 'go under the radar'.

We will have to be at our best to beat the Saints - anything less than absolute focus could easily see us drop points


Same may happen to them at West Ham if they're not careful.

On paper it's any easy win, with increased goal difference, but there is Andy Carrol v his old club & a team which specialises in corners v a team who struggles to defend them.
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Re: The Run In.

Postby mcfc1632 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:08 am

I agree - and Allardyce is the type of manager you would want to be setting a team up to make it difficult for them.

I just think that we should be focussing on the old fashioned thing of 1 game at a time. FFS we have to go to Palace and Everton which I think will also be very tough games - full attention needed.

If we can win all the other games a draw will do at the redscouse - if we drop points at the weekend we might need to win.
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