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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby I Just Blue Myself » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:12 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:torres
i'm not joking

I thought about it as well even before Dzeko broke down. But do you think Mourinho would let us have him? He might prefer to send him back to Liverpool, which tbf would be pretty hilarious.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby blues2win » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:23 pm

Couple of papers punting Bony as a target. Telegraph and Mirror. Pellegrini says only there are various options.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby PrezIke » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:44 am

Nigels Tackle wrote:torres
i'm not joking


really? is he doing well this season then?

maybe he'll be motivated against chelsea like frank?

otherwise would not too impressed with such a signing.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby john@staustell » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:04 am

blues2win wrote:Mark Ogden of the Telegraph says City have ruled out a loan move for Villa but want to sign a striker in January.


He's a RAG twat anyway, take no notice.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby sheblue » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:19 am

blues2win wrote:Couple of papers punting Bony as a target. Telegraph and Mirror. Pellegrini says only there are various options.


If he is going to go to ACON then whats the point?
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby Nigels Tackle » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:31 am

I Just Blue Myself wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:torres
i'm not joking

I thought about it as well even before Dzeko broke down. But do you think Mourinho would let us have him? He might prefer to send him back to Liverpool, which tbf would be pretty hilarious.


thought he'd gone to milan on a free - seems it was a 2 year loan deal. no chance of the chavs sanctioning the move. the klaas jan huntelaar shout from lahad isn't a bad one.... or what about jermaine defoe?
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby Crossie » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:21 am

Things seem quiet generally on the transfer front.

Could this mean Villa is possible despite what we are apparently saying?

It would be an easy deal to do and makes total sense. Its just that it wouldn't go down very well.

We should be probably thinking about a long term Dzeko replacement but Jan isnt the best time to do that.

Bony would probably be a good shout right now.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:21 am

Us if we sign Hummels for 47 mil.

In the real world:

Bony would be too expensive I would have thought, unless Swansea have money problems.

He could fetch decent money in the summer, so no point in Swansea selling him, unless they were offered so much money that they would be stupid to sell. Otherwise they would be very stupid indeed to accept a bid; it could easily destroy their season.

Likewise Berahino.

Cavani; too expensive. Icardi would involve dealing with Italians, & in particular Mancini; they would have piss us about for a month then decide not to sell him, or Mancini would threaten to chuck all his toys out if Inter overule him. We would have to give Mancini something he wanted, I doubt Nastasic would be enough.

So it looks to me like the Frenchman is the likely option from that list.

But another hair of Chinner's bollocks says City are expecting Kelechi's work permit this week & he's going straight in the squad. If he produces the goods, the Count may decide we are ok.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby blues2win » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:20 pm

Pellegrini has said he's considering using Milner as a striker short term. I would say the Club want to buy a striker but it depends on who's available obviously. We were down one anyway because of Negredo leaving. Also they must be worried about Jovetic's injury record and we don't know how long it will be before Aguero is not just injury free but fit and flying. I doubt Kelechi's work permit will decide the matter in those circumstances. The Club are not going to give up on pots this season in order to wait until the close season.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:10 pm

They wouldn't be 'giving up pots'. If that was the choice it's no problem, but it isn't.

For a start, a new signing is not eligible for the Champs League so a key player has to be left out, or we have to leave the new guy out. So that is a 50/50 gamble.

There is no guarantee that we win anything even with everyone fit. There is no guarantee that the player we sign doesn't get injured. He is just as likely to get injured as any of the other members of the team & some of them will certainly get injured. Then we have 4 strikers out & have fucked up part of next season's transfer plans.

If we sign a striker, it should either be a striker we are genuinely interested in signing for next season, or someone we know we can move on quickly; a stop gap.

To fuck up our plans for next season, landing ourselves with a player we don't want just because we have injuries, after all the work trimming the squad & wage bill, would be Swales re born.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby blues2win » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:22 pm

We're not going to buy a player we don't want! Why would we do that? I seem to remember you were the one who said if we won no pots by not buying a striker this season too bad. I doubt the club are thinking like that. Negredo leaves us one short anyway. We didn't replace him which was a gamble and it's in danger of blowing up in our face. If we buy Bony or Benteke it doesn't necessarily mean denying this Nigerian kid a chance. I wouldn't be the least surprised if we ended up selling Jovetic because of his awful injury record. He's definitely in demand. It would be sad but understandable. Also Pellegrini likes playing two up top. At the end of the day what you want may not be what the Club wants. Same for all of us. In my view they are definitely looking for a new striker next month and indeed Pellegrini pretty well confirmed that. They won't buy one unless it makes sense medium term so they may not buy one at the end of the day. Heaven knows who it might be; a proven PL striker makes sense which is why the likes of Bony are mentioned but it could be a foreign player for all I know.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:37 pm

blues2win wrote:We're not going to buy a player we don't want! Why would we do that? I seem to remember you were the one who said if we won no pots by not buying a striker this season too bad. I doubt the club are thinking like that. Negredo leaves us one short anyway. We didn't replace him which was a gamble and it's in danger of blowing up in our face. If we buy Bony or Benteke it doesn't necessarily mean denying this Nigerian kid a chance. I wouldn't be the least surprised if we ended up selling Jovetic because of his awful injury record. He's definitely in demand. It would be sad but understandable. Also Pellegrini likes playing two up top. At the end of the day what you want may not be what the Club wants. Same for all of us. In my view they are definitely looking for a new striker next month and indeed Pellegrini pretty well confirmed that. They won't buy one unless it makes sense medium term so they may not buy one at the end of the day. Heaven knows who it might be; a proven PL striker makes sense which is why the likes of Bony are mentioned but it could be a foreign player for all I know.


You just said we will sign a striker because it will cost us pots if we don't, so we don't let next season's spending plans affect it. That's what I'm replying to.

I don't accept that argument. I don't think that is how the club is geared up. I think we have a plan.

I think we will either sign a player we know we can sell on, or a player who is on our shortlist for next season, or otherwise we will leave it rather than land ourselves with a big signing who was not in our plans for the future. I think we have spending plans for next season, which may possibly include the outside chance of doing some of the business earlier in this window.

If Kelechi was to do well, I think we would leave it, unless we think one of the others is a long term injury.

Negredo by the way, was not eligible for the Champions League & has just scored his first goal so the club has got it right on him, so far. If he scores loads whilst our strikers are missing, & we are unable to land the right man in Jan, then it could be viewed as a mistake. But not yet.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby BmoreBlue » Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:07 pm

What about Henry on a short term contract? He's out of contract with NYRB - we could sign him for six months and use him with kid gloves like we have with frank so far.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby PeterParker » Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:12 pm

Ok, i am really curious, why Bony or Benteke?

Why not other names. I am really curious why do people like them so much.



For me:

Benteke: sicknote, came back after a long time out. We have no insurance it won't happen again.

Bony: if we listen to the news, he refused to leave Swansea, because we was guaranted a starting place there. Do we really need a player like this? A player that won't work to stay in the first team? When Big Ed and Sergio will be fit, Bony would be our third choice. I don't deny his class, he is good, but imho, a problematic player.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:51 pm

PeterParker wrote:Ok, i am really curious, why Bony or Benteke?

Why not other names. I am really curious why do people like them so much.



For me:

Benteke: sicknote, came back after a long time out. We have no insurance it won't happen again.

Bony: if we listen to the news, he refused to leave Swansea, because we was guaranted a starting place there. Do we really need a player like this? A player that won't work to stay in the first team? When Big Ed and Sergio will be fit, Bony would be our third choice. I don't deny his class, he is good, but imho, a problematic player.


proven prem players? Bony has scored more prem goals in the calendar year 2014 than any other player...or so sky informed me yesterday.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby twosips » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:07 pm

Part of really me isn't excited about Bony at all. I dunno why. Good player? Yeah, clearly. But he just feels a tad flavour of the month and i can't see him getting much better than he already is and i think with our forwards we should be aiming higher than 'good to very good'. Negredo at his peak was better imo.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:32 pm

TBH I doubt Bony wiill arrive in Jan and I cannot see Swansea selling. However, igf he did arrive, I would be happy, he is a good player, can hold the play up very well and has the upper body strength better than anyone else in the prem IMO
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:38 pm

twosips wrote:Part of really me isn't excited about Bony at all. I dunno why. Good player? Yeah, clearly. But he just feels a tad flavour of the month and i can't see him getting much better than he already is and i think with our forwards we should be aiming higher than 'good to very good'. Negredo at his peak was better imo.


I don't believe that Bony would be Benjani Mark II.

That said u wouldn't pay silly cash for him in Jan unless we really couldn't get the Nigerian lad a work permit or if jayko or Jojo is going to be sold off in the summer because of our desire to refresh the strike force.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:43 pm

Imo although our strikers in recent years have all made big contributions to our success, it has been more a case of top players playing in a top team, rather than us signing the strikers most suited to the team, & to combining with each other. We are good, so a good striker scores.

If we were to sign Benteke or Bony, imo we then should be selling Dzeko in the summer & signing something different. That would also have been the logical step if we had kept Negredo.

Benteke & Bony are much more powerful than Dzeko, but I would trust him to score for City when needed, as he has already done it, plenty of times. Also there is no evidence either would combine any better with Aguero than Dzeko does (n't). Bony would take Aguero's space from what I've seen. Can't imagine a Bony/Benteke + Dzeko partnership looking that great.

Makes more sense to keep Edin & sign something totally different, preferably a player who suits Aguero.

We should be looking for the right blend of players for the squad imo. Those who will suit where we are looking to go next & will combine with the players we have now.
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Re: Bigggggest Jan Spenders?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:54 pm

Ill give Dzeko till the end of the season before analyzing his contribution....we have done this before with him and he ends up saving our season.
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