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Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:42 am

It surely can't be this simple/obvious can it ?

Would Bayern be so accomodatig ?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... paign=1490

By Mike Keegan For Mailonline

Pep Guardiola has long been touted as Manuel Pellegrini's eventual successor at Manchester City.

And so it may not have come as much of a surprise to see the club's academy chief Patrick Vieira taking in the Spaniard's methods as he took training at Bayern Munich.

The Frenchman, who is performing well in charge of City's youngsters, was snapped by the German champions along with star left back David Alaba.

They tweeted a picture of the pair and revealed that Alaba, who was named in the UEFA team of the year, regarded the ex-Arsenal World Cup winner as his hero.

Sportsmail understands Vieira was in Bavaria to spend time with Guardiola and watch him at work.

Guardiola, 44, made the switch across Europe after a successful stint at Barcelona, where he excelled as a player and a coach.

And it is no secret that City's ex-Barca executive team of Ferran Soriano and Txiki Begiristain are big fans of a man they used to work with.

Pellegrini, 61, has a year-and-a-half left on his contract at the Etihad Stadium.

While his position is not under threat and he may well extend his stay, City will no doubt be making plans for his eventual departure.

The Chilean sang Guardiola's praises ahead of November's Champions League clash in Manchester and even suggested that he should one day manage in England.

'I think it will be very good for him and very good for the Premier League also,' he said.
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:53 am

Depends what you consider to be obvious?

Is Vieira is being mentored by a top coach with the intention of him taking over next at City?
Or is Vieira visiting his next boss at City?
Or is Vieira considered as a potential manager for Bayern in years to come?
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:55 am

The simple thing is that it is just what it is.... Professionals sharing knowledge. This happens all the time.

Nothing to see here. Move along. Its just the Spafias old mate helping Paddy learn some shizzz. Is all.

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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:59 am

Redundancy.
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:06 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:The simple thing is that it is just what it is.... Professionals sharing knowledge. This happens all the time.

Nothing to see here. Move along. Its just the Spafias old mate helping Paddy learn some shizzz. Is all.

Cheers


Guys from the coaching staff of one team playing in the Champions League, going over to take lessons from a rival in the competition?

First time I've ever heard of it.
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:07 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:The simple thing is that it is just what it is.... Professionals sharing knowledge. This happens all the time.

Nothing to see here. Move along. Its just the Spafias old mate helping Paddy learn some shizzz. Is all.

Cheers


Guys from the coaching staff of one team playing in the Champions League, going over to take lessons from a rival in the competition?

First time I've ever heard of it.


Guys openly poaching or tapping up each other in plain sight of the media and fans?

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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:53 pm

I wonder what the German media are making of all this......or are they even bothered ??
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Moonchesteri » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:30 am

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:I wonder what the German media are making of all this......or are they even bothered ??


I would imagine the Germans are wise enough to ignore this. IMO this whole thing is a complete non-story
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby DoomMerchant » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:09 am

Moonchesteri wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:I wonder what the German media are making of all this......or are they even bothered ??


I would imagine the Germans are wise enough to ignore this. IMO this whole thing is a complete non-story


totes non-storied imho.

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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Slim » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:00 am

Have you seen the running internet joke "half-life 3 confirmed"? (Google if you haven't)

I get the feeling we're heading that way with Pep.
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:22 am

I wonder if Pellegrini will stay & if he does leave in the near future, what kind of manager will replace him how that City team will play, we have been asking ? We have speculated, but really we know nothing do we ? It could be all talk.

Perhaps Diego Simieone will be coming in, as per rumours we say, perhaps we are going to score loads from set pieces etc, & he is going to have us all sitting back defending & hitting teams on the break, with loads of big fuckers heading the ball out ? There has been so much speculation surrounding Pellegrini, if only we had a clue as to what kind of football we are planning to play in the future, but unfotunatlely, nothing. Not one single clue.

Not as if it's it's significant that smack bang in the middle of the season, one of our top coaches has taken the trouble to go to Germany to learn coaching tips from Pep Guardiola. Just a thought, but no, it's silly, there's no story here, we can't learn anything from this. It's not as if the top bloke in charge of football at City has fixed up for one of his to coaches to go & learn from someone elses manager in the middle of a season or anything. For all we know, we could be changing to long ball next season.

It probably means nothing, neither a hint that Guardiola is still highly valued by City, so much so that one of our top coaches goes all the way to Germany in the middle of the season to learn stuff from him nor does it mean Vieira is possibly taking the final steps toward a higher management position, nor that the coaching methods currently employed by City are moving even closer toward the style favoured by Txiki etc.

Nope, nothing to see here, just a typical thing that everyone does in the middle of the season. Tim Sherwood is on his way right now, followed by Ryan Giggs & some scouse cunt. Pep has time for all of them; Bayern just love to show people their training methods mid season.

The story is not 'Pep nailed on for City job' you daft bunch of cunts,the story is Vieira, going to Bayern Munich in the middle of the season, for coaching tips from Pep Guardiola.

My original post actually says 'it can't be this simple/obvious can it ?' It probably isn't.

But one of our top coaching staff, was in Germany, learning coaching tips from Pep Guardiola.

It's not typical behaviour at all, & even if it was, then it would still be of interest that; one of our top coaches is in Germany learning from Pep Guardiola.

In case you have forgtton, he's the bloke in charge of all the kids we have been going on about, many of whom we hope/expect to play in the Premier League for City in the future.
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby dazby » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:09 am

It's stunning. One of them will be our next manager. I hope it's Paddy.
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:46 am

Ted Hughes wrote:I wonder if Pellegrini will stay & if he does leave in the near future, what kind of manager will replace him how that City team will play, we have been asking ? We have speculated, but really we know nothing do we ? It could be all talk.

Perhaps Diego Simieone will be coming in, as per rumours we say, perhaps we are going to score loads from set pieces etc, & he is going to have us all sitting back defending & hitting teams on the break, with loads of big fuckers heading the ball out ? There has been so much speculation surrounding Pellegrini, if only we had a clue as to what kind of football we are planning to play in the future, but unfotunatlely, nothing. Not one single clue.

Not as if it's it's significant that smack bang in the middle of the season, one of our top coaches has taken the trouble to go to Germany to learn coaching tips from Pep Guardiola. Just a thought, but no, it's silly, there's no story here, we can't learn anything from this. It's not as if the top bloke in charge of football at City has fixed up for one of his to coaches to go & learn from someone elses manager in the middle of a season or anything. For all we know, we could be changing to long ball next season.

It probably means nothing, neither a hint that Guardiola is still highly valued by City, so much so that one of our top coaches goes all the way to Germany in the middle of the season to learn stuff from him nor does it mean Vieira is possibly taking the final steps toward a higher management position, nor that the coaching methods currently employed by City are moving even closer toward the style favoured by Txiki etc.

Nope, nothing to see here, just a typical thing that everyone does in the middle of the season. Tim Sherwood is on his way right now, followed by Ryan Giggs & some scouse cunt. Pep has time for all of them; Bayern just love to show people their training methods mid season.

The story is not 'Pep nailed on for City job' you daft bunch of cunts,the story is Vieira, going to Bayern Munich in the middle of the season, for coaching tips from Pep Guardiola.

My original post actually says 'it can't be this simple/obvious can it ?' It probably isn't.

But one of our top coaching staff, was in Germany, learning coaching tips from Pep Guardiola.

It's not typical behaviour at all, & even if it was, then it would still be of interest that; one of our top coaches is in Germany learning from Pep Guardiola.

In case you have forgtton, he's the bloke in charge of all the kids we have been going on about, many of whom we hope/expect to play in the Premier League for City in the future.


From your post then Ted, what you're really trying to say is that, in the middle of a season, one of our top coaches has gone to Bayern to get some tips from Pep Guardiola; correct ??
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby I Just Blue Myself » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:41 am

This does happen all the time, though, doesn't it?

Oh, I forgot, Pep is a deity and his wisdom is a well-quarded secret that only the most worthy of youth coaches and inner circle are confided to. And mid season at that! Ma shaʼAllah!

Champions League 'rivals'? Is that a thing now?

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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:33 am

When ?

Give us a few examples of coaches flying to, let's say City, in the middle of the season, apart from those with connections to the club.

Start with one example of anybody, even Stockport County, doing it at City, then find an example of a bigger club doing it, then find someone who has flown across the continent to have tips from Mancini, or Pellegrini, then find one who is in the Champions League qualifying section at the same time as us.

Then find a second one, because it happens all the time.

Or are you going to claim that flying to fucking Munich, is the same as phoning up Fat Sam or Harry for a bit of advice ?
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby iwasthere2012 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:54 am

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I wonder if Pellegrini will stay & if he does leave in the near future, what kind of manager will replace him how that City team will play, we have been asking ? We have speculated, but really we know nothing do we ? It could be all talk.

Perhaps Diego Simieone will be coming in, as per rumours we say, perhaps we are going to score loads from set pieces etc, & he is going to have us all sitting back defending & hitting teams on the break, with loads of big fuckers heading the ball out ? There has been so much speculation surrounding Pellegrini, if only we had a clue as to what kind of football we are planning to play in the future, but unfotunatlely, nothing. Not one single clue.

Not as if it's it's significant that smack bang in the middle of the season, one of our top coaches has taken the trouble to go to Germany to learn coaching tips from Pep Guardiola. Just a thought, but no, it's silly, there's no story here, we can't learn anything from this. It's not as if the top bloke in charge of football at City has fixed up for one of his to coaches to go & learn from someone elses manager in the middle of a season or anything. For all we know, we could be changing to long ball next season.

It probably means nothing, neither a hint that Guardiola is still highly valued by City, so much so that one of our top coaches goes all the way to Germany in the middle of the season to learn stuff from him nor does it mean Vieira is possibly taking the final steps toward a higher management position, nor that the coaching methods currently employed by City are moving even closer toward the style favoured by Txiki etc.

Nope, nothing to see here, just a typical thing that everyone does in the middle of the season. Tim Sherwood is on his way right now, followed by Ryan Giggs & some scouse cunt. Pep has time for all of them; Bayern just love to show people their training methods mid season.

The story is not 'Pep nailed on for City job' you daft bunch of cunts,the story is Vieira, going to Bayern Munich in the middle of the season, for coaching tips from Pep Guardiola.

My original post actually says 'it can't be this simple/obvious can it ?' It probably isn't.

But one of our top coaching staff, was in Germany, learning coaching tips from Pep Guardiola.

It's not typical behaviour at all, & even if it was, then it would still be of interest that; one of our top coaches is in Germany learning from Pep Guardiola.

In case you have forgtton, he's the bloke in charge of all the kids we have been going on about, many of whom we hope/expect to play in the Premier League for City in the future.


From your post then Ted, what you're really trying to say is that, in the middle of a season, one of our top coaches has gone to Bayern to get some tips from Pep Guardiola; correct ??


What do I know, but considering the way Patrick's under 19's have schooled Bayern's in the last couple of seasons, maybe it's the other way around. Maybe Pep is looking for help from us. I hope we're charging them a hefty intellectual rights fee.
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Hazy2 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:16 pm

I am sure Paddy popped the question about his CV being in and Pep has told him not to panic, I see Pep and the two amigos back at Barca at some point, they President elections at the end of the season. Just saying as Laporte, is standing again.
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:41 pm

There is absolutely no point in Txiki or Soriano going back to Barca apart from the weather or homesickness. But seeing as they have half the world to deal with in their City jobs, then that shouldn't be a problem either. There is no point in Barca employing them, or them being employed there.

Why would anybody, anywhere, who has just embarked on a huge project like City, on great wages, want to fuck off in the middle of it ? What kind of job satisfaction would that being ? Where would the ambition be ? What would that do for their reputations ? What if they get to Barca, & find that there are more politics involved a year later & they are both out on their arses ? Just because they know somebody at Barca, they will spew everything, walk out on City & return ? Not a cat in hell's chance.

There is one chance of those two going to Barca; if City effectively sack them. This trip by Vieira is another indication of how that is not part of the plan, at all.

As for Pep; he has already said he won't be going back there, & he fancies the Premier League.

When that happens, who knows ? But it probably will & maybe soon. Big question is whether that's as an employee or a rival.
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Bleed_Blue » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:52 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:There is absolutely no point in Txiki or Soriano going back to Barca.


Completely agree.

With a huge TV deal that's been agreed, the future is premier league and city is the most ambitious project in the league with world wide expansion plans, where these guys already are.

Paddy power ! Probably he is gonna be our assistant coach next year under Pellegrini.
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Re: Vieira Visits Bayern.

Postby Hazy2 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:53 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:There is absolutely no point in Txiki or Soriano going back to Barca apart from the weather or homesickness. But seeing as they have half the world to deal with in their City jobs, then that shouldn't be a problem either. There is no point in Barca employing them, or them being employed there.

Why would anybody, anywhere, who has just embarked on a huge project like City, on great wages, want to fuck off in the middle of it ? What kind of job satisfaction would that being ? Where would the ambition be ? What would that do for their reputations ? What if they get to Barca, & find that there are more politics involved a year later & they are both out on their arses ? Just because they know somebody at Barca, they will spew everything, walk out on City & return ? Not a cat in hell's chance.

There is one chance of those two going to Barca; if City effectively sack them. This trip by Vieira is another indication of how that is not part of the plan, at all.

As for Pep; he has already said he won't be going back there, & he fancies the Premier League.

When that happens, who knows ? But it probably will & maybe soon. Big question is whether that's as an employee or a rival.


Ted is is just an opinion, and for the record they have all left and returned before have they not. Go with the flow man it's Friday.
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