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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Moonchesteri » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:23 pm

nottsblue wrote:I suspect the omission of Jovetic has as much to do with our transfer plans this summer as anythong else


If that was the case why show all of the world which one is clearly the one heading out? Not a very smart move when you should try to get best possible price out of him is it?
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Sideshow Bob » Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:29 pm

Jojo's situation reminds me a lot of aquilani tbh. similar players with similar talent, both held back by injuries and mgrs who didn't favor them.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby getdressedmctavish » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:19 am

Why me? reminds me of the guy who draws the straw to get boiled alive in Shogun. Don't think Jovetic can have any complaints
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby WhyAlwaysMe? » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:49 am

It's bad enough that FIFA/UEFA changed the FFP rules, after City were on target to meet those original specifications, just so FIFA/UEFA could extort large sums of money. I believe that Pellegrini and the directors have compounded that damage, by sacrificing Stevan Jovetic and allowing the FFP illegal restraint of trade, to further hamper City.

If City was forced to eliminate any player from the CL squad, then it should have been Willy Caballero that was sacrificed... Caballero has almost zero chance of playing and Wright, Lawlor & Gunn should be more than capable of filling in for Joe Hart, who is so rarely injured or suspended.

It was wasteful to lose any potential contribution that Stevan Jovetic might have made, when Willy Caballero is not worth losing a CL spot for.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Moonchesteri » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:54 am

getdressedmctavish wrote:Why me? reminds me of the guy who draws the straw to get boiled alive in Shogun. Don't think Jovetic can have any complaints


Fantastic book that.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Dameerto » Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:43 am

Sister of fu wrote:If he wasn't such a soft twat he would have played more and probably not have been left out. He seems to find it all too easy to sit out a game if he has a bit of a niggle. How many actual major injuries has he had while at city? He's another Owen Hargreaves who's problems we're mental not physical. He has not done enough in his time at city and that's a fact.

That's my gripe with him as well - his annoyance at being left out is outweighed by my annoyance with him at finding a number of last minute excuses to avoid playing. Pellegrini even had to threaten him via one of the prematch interviews with being sold if he didn't stop it.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Sister of fu » Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:01 am

Would people be seriously happy if we had to go into a champions league quarter final with Richard Wright in goal....really Richard Wright in goal? If you think Willy is bad then think again....
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Cit.revenge » Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:35 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Apart from the UEFA bit, that's a load of shite.

We would be out of the competition without Jovetic's contribution.

If you want to live on past records, how brilliant have Aguero or Dzeko been in the Champions League for City in the past & how many games has Aguero been fully fit ?

Absolute bollox yourself mate. What, he set a couple up, what other contribution has he given? In fact, he was so out of form that he couldn't even get a start in most of the games and got hauled off at half time in another, or was that due to yet another injury.?

I know you've sang his praises Ted, and me too, but he's better than Aguero or Dzeko (?), you're having a fucking giraffe. Maybe if he could string a few games together then we might see the best of him but seeing as he hasn't then we're not going to get the chance. Fuck, Pellers played a half fit Aguero and Dzeko before he played Jovetic, that's how much faith he has in him.

So, talking shite eh Ted, please tell me why Jovetic deserves a spot infront of players that haven't just turned it on for a game or 2? Yes, we could've dropped somebody like Kolarov or Sagna but that's obviouslsy a tactical decision and with 2 forwards who have PROVED themselves at City, and one that looks as though he has the talent, there was no other in the eyes of the non-Jovetic lickers.

But eh, it's all opinion.

There's more good comments but this is the most realistic. Ted loves Jovetic, it is obvious and I do not blame him. Jovetic is good, but really few games some shine, and that is Jovetic in how many years ?. I look at how much is still some do not like Edin after 4 season and 2 EPL title 1 FA and 1 League Cup t. I agree he has a terrible season ,but first chopped injuries, No exemptions for Edin. How i remember last game against Barcelona ,Edin sub Aguero and make them a lot of problems.But fuck that , lets talk about Jovetic. I agree that Jovetic talent deserves to be in the Champions League, but his injuries justify Pellegrini decision and probably transfer policies that were agreed behind closed doors, Our defense for me is bigger issue then our attack like almost every season.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Goaters 103 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:32 am

Sister of fu wrote:Would people be seriously happy if we had to go into a champions league quarter final with Richard Wright in goal....really Richard Wright in goal? If you think Willy is bad then think again....


Lets be realistic, this is a 2 game campaign we have left in the CL so there wont be any q-f barring an absolute miracle of several critical Barcelona injuries - say Messi, Suarez, Piquet, Iniesta and Neymar all getting the shits on the plane over here. As an aside, in the unlikely event they fly via Jet2 and try one of their sandwiches this possibility increases ten-fold.

Sans Toure in the first leg, we will again have Fernando "shielding" the back 4 ..... "shudders" - a draw would be a decent result for us at home given our mickey mouse defending of late.

Jovetic can whinge all he wants. He wouldn't have started either game, and at best would have got 10 mins as a sub in one of the two legs.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:41 am

Cit.revenge wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Apart from the UEFA bit, that's a load of shite.

We would be out of the competition without Jovetic's contribution.

If you want to live on past records, how brilliant have Aguero or Dzeko been in the Champions League for City in the past & how many games has Aguero been fully fit ?

Absolute bollox yourself mate. What, he set a couple up, what other contribution has he given? In fact, he was so out of form that he couldn't even get a start in most of the games and got hauled off at half time in another, or was that due to yet another injury.?

I know you've sang his praises Ted, and me too, but he's better than Aguero or Dzeko (?), you're having a fucking giraffe. Maybe if he could string a few games together then we might see the best of him but seeing as he hasn't then we're not going to get the chance. Fuck, Pellers played a half fit Aguero and Dzeko before he played Jovetic, that's how much faith he has in him.

So, talking shite eh Ted, please tell me why Jovetic deserves a spot infront of players that haven't just turned it on for a game or 2? Yes, we could've dropped somebody like Kolarov or Sagna but that's obviouslsy a tactical decision and with 2 forwards who have PROVED themselves at City, and one that looks as though he has the talent, there was no other in the eyes of the non-Jovetic lickers.

But eh, it's all opinion.

Edin I agree he has a terrible season ,


The only part relevant to what I have posted. And that's from his biggest fan. And we are behind Chelsea imo precisely because Pellegrini changed the team to play a 'half fit Aguero'. I think we have lost every game when we have played a 'half fit Aguero' in Europe, as a lone striker.

Perhaps someone can find the bit where I said Jovetic is better than Aguero or Dzeko though, as I must have been typing in my fucking sleep, because I don't remember saying it.

The rest is basically just giving sound reasons why Jovetic deserves to be in the Champions League squad.

He might get injured, Aguero might get injured, Dzeko might play shit & kick the ball straight at the keeper with frank Lampard stood next to him available for a tap in, Bony might not settle straight in.

It's all a gamble.

I've said several times that I understand why Pellegrioni has chosen Dzeko on his past record, but people pretending Jovetic should just be happy about it & making sarcastic remarks about him are just basically having a go at him for the sake of it.

He's entitled to be pissed off, because he has done quite well in Europe this season, Dzeko has been fucking shit all season, & neither Dzeko nor Aguero have been that great for City in Europe in previous seasons. The odd goal amongst a large amount of fuck all has been the typical product from both.

So it's not as if Jovetic has let us down.

Pellegrini has made his decision based on the past, & on the potential of Bony. It is not based on actual performance for City this season. He may have got it right, or horribly wrong but if it was based on actual football this season, Jovetic would be in the squad. He knows it. He's unhappy about it, & he's entitled to be.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:42 am

Goaters 103 wrote:
Sister of fu wrote:Would people be seriously happy if we had to go into a champions league quarter final with Richard Wright in goal....really Richard Wright in goal? If you think Willy is bad then think again....


Lets be realistic, this is a 2 game campaign we have left in the CL so there wont be any q-f barring an absolute miracle of several critical Barcelona injuries - say Messi, Suarez, Piquet, Iniesta and Neymar all getting the shits on the plane over here. As an aside, in the unlikely event they fly via Jet2 and try one of their sandwiches this possibility increases ten-fold.

Sans Toure in the first leg, we will again have Fernando "shielding" the back 4 ..... "shudders" - a draw would be a decent result for us at home given our mickey mouse defending of late.

Jovetic can whinge all he wants. He wouldn't have started either game, and at best would have got 10 mins as a sub in one of the two legs.


Don't think Fernando's been that bad when he's been asked to solely shield the back four, in fact he's excelled. The problem with him is when he's asked to play a more expansive game in a two man central midfield he just hasn't got it.

We may actually be better off without Yaya for the first leg, keep things tight and hopefully go to Camp Nou in a few weeks with it all to play for.

As for Jovetic, perfectly understandable and expected reaction for him.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Goaters 103 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:06 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
Sister of fu wrote:Would people be seriously happy if we had to go into a champions league quarter final with Richard Wright in goal....really Richard Wright in goal? If you think Willy is bad then think again....


Lets be realistic, this is a 2 game campaign we have left in the CL so there wont be any q-f barring an absolute miracle of several critical Barcelona injuries - say Messi, Suarez, Piquet, Iniesta and Neymar all getting the shits on the plane over here. As an aside, in the unlikely event they fly via Jet2 and try one of their sandwiches this possibility increases ten-fold.

Sans Toure in the first leg, we will again have Fernando "shielding" the back 4 ..... "shudders" - a draw would be a decent result for us at home given our mickey mouse defending of late.

Jovetic can whinge all he wants. He wouldn't have started either game, and at best would have got 10 mins as a sub in one of the two legs.


Don't think Fernando's been that bad when he's been asked to solely shield the back four, in fact he's excelled. The problem with him is when he's asked to play a more expansive game in a two man central midfield he just hasn't got it.

We may actually be better off without Yaya for the first leg, keep things tight and hopefully go to Camp Nou in a few weeks with it all to play for.

As for Jovetic, perfectly understandable and expected reaction for him.


The problem being that when you play Barcelona, it is hard enough to get much possession and retain it anyway. With Fernando in your central midfield - a guy who is utterly useless in possession of the ball - it makes it even worse.

The genuine fear is that like last time, Barca will have the ball 75% of the time, we are left to feed off scraps and chase the ball for 90 mins with the inevitable outcome. Lampard would be the option to consider for the home leg, alongside Fernandinho, Milner, Nasri and Silva in a 5 across the middle with Sergio up top. Fernando should be locked in a cupboard at the CFA until the 90 mins are up - back on topic, he can keep Jovetic company for the game.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:28 am

Goaters 103 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
Sister of fu wrote:Would people be seriously happy if we had to go into a champions league quarter final with Richard Wright in goal....really Richard Wright in goal? If you think Willy is bad then think again....


Lets be realistic, this is a 2 game campaign we have left in the CL so there wont be any q-f barring an absolute miracle of several critical Barcelona injuries - say Messi, Suarez, Piquet, Iniesta and Neymar all getting the shits on the plane over here. As an aside, in the unlikely event they fly via Jet2 and try one of their sandwiches this possibility increases ten-fold.

Sans Toure in the first leg, we will again have Fernando "shielding" the back 4 ..... "shudders" - a draw would be a decent result for us at home given our mickey mouse defending of late.

Jovetic can whinge all he wants. He wouldn't have started either game, and at best would have got 10 mins as a sub in one of the two legs.


Don't think Fernando's been that bad when he's been asked to solely shield the back four, in fact he's excelled. The problem with him is when he's asked to play a more expansive game in a two man central midfield he just hasn't got it.

We may actually be better off without Yaya for the first leg, keep things tight and hopefully go to Camp Nou in a few weeks with it all to play for.

As for Jovetic, perfectly understandable and expected reaction for him.


The problem being that when you play Barcelona, it is hard enough to get much possession and retain it anyway. With Fernando in your central midfield - a guy who is utterly useless in possession of the ball - it makes it even worse.

The genuine fear is that like last time, Barca will have the ball 75% of the time, we are left to feed off scraps and chase the ball for 90 mins with the inevitable outcome. Lampard would be the option to consider for the home leg, alongside Fernandinho, Milner, Nasri and Silva in a 5 across the middle with Sergio up top. Fernando should be locked in a cupboard at the CFA until the 90 mins are up - back on topic, he can keep Jovetic company for the game.


Reckon we'll be chasing the ball regardless Ted, that's why I think it may not be a bad thing if Yaya's not in there. Not sure if Frank would have the legs to keep up either.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby City64 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:03 pm

Jovetic can cry all he wants , he hasn't been good enough , shit happens !
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:05 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Apart from the UEFA bit, that's a load of shite.

We would be out of the competition without Jovetic's contribution.

If you want to live on past records, how brilliant have Aguero or Dzeko been in the Champions League for City in the past & how many games has Aguero been fully fit ?

Absolute bollox yourself mate. What, he set a couple up, what other contribution has he given? In fact, he was so out of form that he couldn't even get a start in most of the games and got hauled off at half time in another, or was that due to yet another injury.?

I know you've sang his praises Ted, and me too, but he's better than Aguero or Dzeko (?), you're having a fucking giraffe. Maybe if he could string a few games together then we might see the best of him but seeing as he hasn't then we're not going to get the chance. Fuck, Pellers played a half fit Aguero and Dzeko before he played Jovetic, that's how much faith he has in him.

So, talking shite eh Ted, please tell me why Jovetic deserves a spot infront of players that haven't just turned it on for a game or 2? Yes, we could've dropped somebody like Kolarov or Sagna but that's obviouslsy a tactical decision and with 2 forwards who have PROVED themselves at City, and one that looks as though he has the talent, there was no other in the eyes of the non-Jovetic lickers.

But eh, it's all opinion.

Edin I agree he has a terrible season ,


The only part relevant to what I have posted. And that's from his biggest fan. And we are behind Chelsea imo precisely because Pellegrini changed the team to play a 'half fit Aguero'. I think we have lost every game when we have played a 'half fit Aguero' in Europe, as a lone striker.

Perhaps someone can find the bit where I said Jovetic is better than Aguero or Dzeko though, as I must have been typing in my fucking sleep, because I don't remember saying it.

The rest is basically just giving sound reasons why Jovetic deserves to be in the Champions League squad.

He might get injured, Aguero might get injured, Dzeko might play shit & kick the ball straight at the keeper with frank Lampard stood next to him available for a tap in, Bony might not settle straight in.

It's all a gamble.

I've said several times that I understand why Pellegrioni has chosen Dzeko on his past record, but people pretending Jovetic should just be happy about it & making sarcastic remarks about him are just basically having a go at him for the sake of it.

He's entitled to be pissed off, because he has done quite well in Europe this season, Dzeko has been fucking shit all season, & neither Dzeko nor Aguero have been that great for City in Europe in previous seasons. The odd goal amongst a large amount of fuck all has been the typical product from both.

So it's not as if Jovetic has let us down.

Pellegrini has made his decision based on the past, & on the potential of Bony. It is not based on actual performance for City this season. He may have got it right, or horribly wrong but if it was based on actual football this season, Jovetic would be in the squad. He knows it. He's unhappy about it, & he's entitled to be.


That's al well and good Ted as we all have our opinions. What actually makes this situation worse for me is that he went straight to the media and started fucking whinging about it. Regardless of the pro's and con's of having him in the squad, this just backs up the assertion that he is a mard twat who has no consideration for our club. OK, go and have a whinge, cry to your wife, agent or somebody else who really gives a fuck but not to the media, and not to that extent.

He's now made it clear that he has no allegiance, not only to us but to the rest of the squad he's supposed to play with. Those who have been chosen over him will now be thinking 'Was he talking about me, is he saying I'm not good enough?', and that's what rankles me in all of this.

Sounds like a spoilt little bastard who thinks he's deserving more than anybody else, not taking into account his own form and injuries, just because he did it in a couple of games. And you know what, it looks like Txiki and Pellers were right, he's a snivelling little sicknote.

I'll still support him though, afterall, he's still a City player. For now.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:20 pm

Never like players going to the media but I doubt any of the other strikers, nor Kolarov, would have kept quiet about it either.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Slim » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:24 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Never like players going to the media but I doubt any of the other strikers, nor Kolarov, would have kept quiet about it either.


Hey, let's play a game of assumptions.

Jovetic wouldn't have been fit anyway, no doubt he'll pick up a bruise on his arm and be out for 3 months.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Nick » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:58 pm

Only read page 1 but agree with Ted.

1) I don't think hes saying anything 'out of sorts' - hes hurting. We want passion.
2) He should be in the squad ahead of 1) Kolorov, 2) Willy or 3) Dzeko. He helped us get there
3) He does 'try things' in games. Over the past 2 months we have been gash because of limp, slow, sideways build up.
4) His shooting hasn't been good enough. But then I think he needs game time. As does Dzeko. Dzeko hasn't scored since September?! and his job is centre forward...
5) Jove isn't a striker like Aguero. But he isn't as creative as Silva/Nasri. I think thats whats got him left out of the squad. But for me if we're chasing Barca who would you rather bring on? Jove or Dzeko? Half the ground groans when we bring Dzeko on these days as they know when we're up against it. Dzeko is like playing with 10 men.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:58 pm

Slim wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Never like players going to the media but I doubt any of the other strikers, nor Kolarov, would have kept quiet about it either.


Hey, let's play a game of assumptions.

Jovetic wouldn't have been fit anyway, no doubt he'll pick up a bruise on his arm and be out for 3 months.


Hey let's pretend it's not nailed on.

Dzeko has already started talking about his & Bony's situation re starting in the team & has previous for talking about 'not knowing what will happen at the end of the season' 'needing more playing time' etc. Aguero would accept it & keep quiet ? Balotelli or Tevez would have been silent ? Bellamy ? Adebayor ?

Kolarov has already done the same moaning about not playing enough.

Anybody who was left out would be moaning about it.
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Re: Jovetic Not Happy

Postby City64 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:53 pm

Anyone hear Jovetic moaning or spouting off when he is always fucking injured or producing fuck all for the team on the few occasions he is fit ?

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