***Burnley POST Match Thread*** (split from Matchday thread)

[Hazy2]

Would love to hear from a player, who have tons to say when it is all going great, this manager has fuck all to lose by naming and shaming the players, for me lets not dilute it the players are taking the piss out of us all. Sergio was not up for it, I could see that after a min. World class players do not all perform that badly together , answer the players are a clique of wankers.

[Dub City]

If rags and Scouse win this weekend we are 1 more defeat from dropping out of top 4. Not good enough, played well twice since Christmas against Stoke and Newcastle that I can remember. Arsenal 1 point behind now. Shocking performance struggle to find one player who can say performed to the required level but I'll give Dzeko a special mention, gave ball away lazy poor play out on touch line for them to break out then when Boyd strikes ball he is nearest man and he turns his back and cowards away. Nasri got slated for doing same v rags 2 years back. Fair enough he may not and probably won't get a block but put in some fucking effort and show some balls.
I'm sure kompany will be said should have cleared ball better from header but why does hart need 4 in a wall from there leaving us short for the knock down.
Title well and truly gone, confidence looks to be on the floor, going to be a vital next few games now to try keep in top 4.

[blues2win]

It's all very well exempting the manager from criticism but Pellegrini is paid squillions to get the players to play for him. They're not. Burnley deserve credit for their immense effort off the ball. They doubled up on both flanks and stopped our full backs doing much going forward. They gave us precious little even if they got lucky with the penalty. One or two signs of disharmony in our camp. Aguero looked pissed off with the service he got.

[Dameerto]

He's paid to carry the can if things go tits up, and things have gone tits up.

[Ted Hughes]

I tell you what smart arse, you fucking tell us like you always fucking do. Guess what, I'm not paid 5-6 million a year to set tactics and motivate a fucking multi-million pound team, but Pellers is.

Now tell me, what is the managers job, is not not to set tactics, see where our weaknesses are and change the shape/team to suit?

Obviously not, the managers job is just to say I'll play one fucking way and you'll like it or lump it.

The players aren;t at their best, we can all see that, but still, there's no fucking change.

Maybe he could play one or two of the youth, at least they'd want to prove. But no, same old, same old.

We need huge change, and that includes Pellers system.

Well if you haven't got a fucking clue, and you admit it, why are you saying I'm talking shite when I say there's fuck all he could have done ?

You either have an idea what he could have done, or you are just being a twat because we have lost.

If you think there is something different Pellegrini should have done, then fucking say so. I don't believe it would have made any fucking difference what he did; we were shite, & no trick would fix it. If you think I'm talking shite saying that, then fucking discuss it rather than just fucking sulking.

[Crossie]

Players lose you games. They can all fuck right off. All totally wank. The wheels have fallen off, we're in melt down.

[Ted Hughes]

Neither of us were attaching importance to the formation - he just asked if it had changed since the subs, I was saying it hadn't. Neither of us implied that the formation was the reason we were having problems either.

I didn't say you were. Others were.

I don't see why it mattered anymore in that game. We had the ball most of the time.

[Wilson Raine]

Would love it if pellers said in his upcoming interview...'we fucked up - the players were crap and I take the full blame for this farce - we were not good enough' - simple. But what will we get?

[stevefromdonny]

now I don't know what is going wrong but when the players are putting a shit performance in week in week out it is there fault, stray passes, moving ball or touching ball around halfway line is shit, even when we was down 1-0 at 75 mins we just tried to walk with the ball or pass it backwards, people and I include myself in this, when the scum was losing at west ham and they was lumping the ball into the pen area I was calling them tossers, but us no in last 5 mins we was trying to play the ball into areas like the wings and no cross was coming in, ffs YOU GET THE BALL IN TO THE PEN AREA AND HOPE WE SCORE OR GET A PEN.

[london blue 2]

I tell you what smart arse, you fucking tell us like you always fucking do. Guess what, I'm not paid 5-6 million a year to set tactics and motivate a fucking multi-million pound team, but Pellers is.

Now tell me, what is the managers job, is not not to set tactics, see where our weaknesses are and change the shape/team to suit?

Obviously not, the managers job is just to say I'll play one fucking way and you'll like it or lump it.

The players aren;t at their best, we can all see that, but still, there's no fucking change.

Maybe he could play one or two of the youth, at least they'd want to prove. But no, same old, same old.

We need huge change, and that includes Pellers system.

Well if you haven't got a fucking clue, and you admit it, why are you saying I'm talking shite when I say there's fuck all he could have done ?

You either have an idea what he could have done, or you are just being a twat because we have lost.

If you think there is something different Pellegrini should have done, then fucking say so. I don't believe it would have made any fucking difference what he did; we were shite, & no trick would fix it. If you think I'm talking shite saying that, then fucking discuss it rather than just fucking sulking.

If he had kept the same team that won the last match it might have been interesting...

[Ted Hughes]

It's all very well exempting the manager from criticism but Pellegrini is paid squillions to get the players to play for him. They're not. Burnley deserve credit for their immense effort off the ball. They doubled up on both flanks and stopped our full backs doing much going forward. They gave us precious little even if they got lucky with the penalty. One or two signs of disharmony in our camp. Aguero looked pissed off with the service he got.

Who is exempting the manager from criticism ?

But what can he do on the day to change that & why can't people like Silva & Toure control a football all of a sudden ?

[Dameerto]

Would love it if pellers said in his upcoming interview...'we fucked up - the players were crap and I take the full blame for this farce - we were not good enough' - simple. But what will we get?

He's apparently already said it was a normal performance, according to someone on here, I didn't see the post match interview myself though.
That was far form normal to anyone who watched last season and this.

[freshie]

Pellers saying on SS1 that that was a normal performance! Fuck off

He's really not helping himself with shite like that

[Ted Hughes]

I tell you what smart arse, you fucking tell us like you always fucking do. Guess what, I'm not paid 5-6 million a year to set tactics and motivate a fucking multi-million pound team, but Pellers is.

Now tell me, what is the managers job, is not not to set tactics, see where our weaknesses are and change the shape/team to suit?

Obviously not, the managers job is just to say I'll play one fucking way and you'll like it or lump it.

The players aren;t at their best, we can all see that, but still, there's no fucking change.

Maybe he could play one or two of the youth, at least they'd want to prove. But no, same old, same old.

We need huge change, and that includes Pellers system.

Well if you haven't got a fucking clue, and you admit it, why are you saying I'm talking shite when I say there's fuck all he could have done ?

You either have an idea what he could have done, or you are just being a twat because we have lost.

If you think there is something different Pellegrini should have done, then fucking say so. I don't believe it would have made any fucking difference what he did; we were shite, & no trick would fix it. If you think I'm talking shite saying that, then fucking discuss it rather than just fucking sulking.

If he had kept the same team that won the last match it might have been interesting...

It would be interesting if he dropped most of them & put the kids in, but neither is likely to solve the problem unfortunately.

We played exactly like that, & were just as half arsed, v Leicester. I was worried by it at the time & said so.

[PeterParker]

Pellers saying on SS1 that that was a normal performance! Fuck off

Ez normal.

I think that is the right thing to do, i am pretty sure the speech is totally different in the dressing room. Our players are primadonnas, if you launch some heavy words in public about them, you are gone in the next second.

[Blue Since 76]

I tell you what smart arse, you fucking tell us like you always fucking do. Guess what, I'm not paid 5-6 million a year to set tactics and motivate a fucking multi-million pound team, but Pellers is.

Now tell me, what is the managers job, is not not to set tactics, see where our weaknesses are and change the shape/team to suit?

Obviously not, the managers job is just to say I'll play one fucking way and you'll like it or lump it.

The players aren;t at their best, we can all see that, but still, there's no fucking change.

Maybe he could play one or two of the youth, at least they'd want to prove. But no, same old, same old.

We need huge change, and that includes Pellers system.

Well if you haven't got a fucking clue, and you admit it, why are you saying I'm talking shite when I say there's fuck all he could have done ?

You either have an idea what he could have done, or you are just being a twat because we have lost.

If you think there is something different Pellegrini should have done, then fucking say so. I don't believe it would have made any fucking difference what he did; we were shite, & no trick would fix it. If you think I'm talking shite saying that, then fucking discuss it rather than just fucking sulking.

If you don't believe he could do anything which would make a difference, them he should be sacked - he's the manager and if he can no longer manage then he's just an oxygen thief.

That said, a number of these players need kicking out of the club. When they sacked Mancini they should have got rid of the ringleaders at the same time. We need to make sure we don't make the same mistake this time.

[freshie]

I tell you what smart arse, you fucking tell us like you always fucking do. Guess what, I'm not paid 5-6 million a year to set tactics and motivate a fucking multi-million pound team, but Pellers is.

Now tell me, what is the managers job, is not not to set tactics, see where our weaknesses are and change the shape/team to suit?

Obviously not, the managers job is just to say I'll play one fucking way and you'll like it or lump it.

The players aren;t at their best, we can all see that, but still, there's no fucking change.

Maybe he could play one or two of the youth, at least they'd want to prove. But no, same old, same old.

We need huge change, and that includes Pellers system.

Well if you haven't got a fucking clue, and you admit it, why are you saying I'm talking shite when I say there's fuck all he could have done ?

You either have an idea what he could have done, or you are just being a twat because we have lost.

If you think there is something different Pellegrini should have done, then fucking say so. I don't believe it would have made any fucking difference what he did; we were shite, & no trick would fix it. If you think I'm talking shite saying that, then fucking discuss it rather than just fucking sulking.

If he had kept the same team that won the last match it might have been interesting...

It would be interesting if he dropped most of them & put the kids in, but neither is likely to solve the problem unfortunately.

We played exactly like that, & were just as half arsed, v Leicester. I was worried by it at the time & said so.

True. Luckily we got away with it on that night

[Wilson Raine]

WTF? Normally? What normally? - bad/shite - is it normal for city to play 'bad' Is it acceptable to play like this? No it ain't kiddo at least he accepts there is a problem! Didn't see the interview the 1st time. I feel really angry - no passion from players or manager - if that was me I would be blood red with anger and sod the interview - guess that's why I ain't a manager. Mind you wasn't Manchini like that?

[Ted Hughes]

I tell you what smart arse, you fucking tell us like you always fucking do. Guess what, I'm not paid 5-6 million a year to set tactics and motivate a fucking multi-million pound team, but Pellers is.

Now tell me, what is the managers job, is not not to set tactics, see where our weaknesses are and change the shape/team to suit?

Obviously not, the managers job is just to say I'll play one fucking way and you'll like it or lump it.

The players aren;t at their best, we can all see that, but still, there's no fucking change.

Maybe he could play one or two of the youth, at least they'd want to prove. But no, same old, same old.

We need huge change, and that includes Pellers system.

Well if you haven't got a fucking clue, and you admit it, why are you saying I'm talking shite when I say there's fuck all he could have done ?

You either have an idea what he could have done, or you are just being a twat because we have lost.

If you think there is something different Pellegrini should have done, then fucking say so. I don't believe it would have made any fucking difference what he did; we were shite, & no trick would fix it. If you think I'm talking shite saying that, then fucking discuss it rather than just fucking sulking.

If you don't believe he could do anything which would make a difference, them he should be sacked - he's the manager and if he can no longer manage then he's just an oxygen thief.

That said, a number of these players need kicking out of the club. When they sacked Mancini they should have got rid of the ringleaders at the same time. We need to make sure we don't make the same mistake this time.

Not if I don't think anyone else could have done any better today; which is my opinion.

Whether he is the right bloke to continue next season, I have no idea, but imo no manager would have any drastic effect on those players when they are in that mood.

I think it's their fault, & I've pretty much seen my arse with them.

[PrezIke]

These players are not that fucking bad. Our manager is looking more and more clueless.

not that bad? the talent has never been a question. it's their attitudes. something there seems amiss.

is the count a-count-able as well?

surely, but so are our players with long term contracts and all too frequent poor, uninspiring performances.