Is it time to start again?

[bayblue]

Evolution not Revolution for me (both as principle and cos of FFP).

Need a top class midfielder, at least one new fullback and some pace further forward.

[Crossie]

If we make changes to the magnitude that people are saying, we won't be winning the league next season either, or the champs league for a while. I don't want that, rebuilding takes time, especially with restrictions.

Someone said the other day that a clean sheet is worth 2.5 points and a goal only 1. Therefore Its the keeper and defence we need to worry about, although there is a possibility the defence is shit because the midfield aren't helping out enough.

I think 2 or 3 key positions are needed, the rest will sort themselves out.

I think Yaya may have out stayed his welcome and could be affecting others mentally and balance of the playing 11.

Dzeko and his Balkan chums may also be causing some unease. Dzeko has previous such as during the Bayern/Tevez game and he blows SO hot and cold that he could be an issue, Kolarov is great to have in your squad but we all know he isn't good enough. Jovetic takes up a place in the squad and isn't really good enough in any of the positions he seems to be played in. If they are in a disgruntled clique, it needs breaking up.

I don't know who I'd bring in as I've stopped playing FIFA and Football Manager hahahha

[simplytolmie]

This is the biggest end of season and summer for this club and I believe it sets the tone for the next 10 years.

We have bought a team, paid large amounts of money for players who were ready for the challenge but a lot were mercenaries. This is the problem we have now got a squad of players that when it's tough go missing. Same under Mancini and now under Pellers.

First things first we need a top Manager and I do mean TOP. Someone who has done it in Europe, will be entrusted with the Squad and Club approach for the next ten years. This needs to be built from the ground up.

Obvious names are Ancellotti, Guardiola or Klopp. They've all built at big clubs Milan, Barca and Dortmund respectively. You could throw Simeone into this also but his fiery nature may not be that of choice for the owners.

Squad is another job, we have to make big decisions on players due to FFP. I'd take the fine and blow the budget but that's me. I think we have big decisions on Yaya, Kompany, Silva, Fernandinho, Dzeko and Aguero. Yaya and Silva are probably at the right time to move on to get the most money, anytime after this we will get buttons. The money could be invested to get the right players in.

The new coach would have to be in place to spend this money and get rid of players, we have a good squad now but it is unbalanced and doesn't fit Pellegrini's style. This is no good.

Suggestions out
Sagna
Kolorov
Boyata
Fernando
Fernandinho
Yaya
Silva (and I love him - but Barca may part with £40m for him)
Milner
Lampard
Dzeko
Jovetic

Youth Players in
Denayer
Angelino
Lopes
Zucellini

Our biggest issue without doubt is midfield, we need energy, pace and creativity. We have currently 1 of those elements.

Big job for the Club, I don't want Mansour to lose interest but this is a big project and I think the last two seasons transfers have harmed the club more than helped them and I'd put Bony in that bracket already.

[kinkylola]

i think we do need a big shake up ... keep things fresh. Some players have gotten too comfortable with their place in the team and they either need moving on or something to buck up their ideas. I'd like to see talented youth given a real shot, we can start with denayer and lopes. Having some talented kids who are hungry to make it can have a real effect on established players, imo.

[Wonderwall]

Evolution not Revolution for me (both as principle and cos of FFP).

Need a top class midfielder, at least one new fullback and some pace further forward.

Totally agree, I am not one for Revolution usually, but the age of our squad means we need to make quite a few changes in the next couple of years.

[DoomMerchant]

This is the biggest end of season and summer for this club and I believe it sets the tone for the next 10 years.

We have bought a team, paid large amounts of money for players who were ready for the challenge but a lot were mercenaries. This is the problem we have now got a squad of players that when it's tough go missing. Same under Mancini and now under Pellers.

First things first we need a top Manager and I do mean TOP. Someone who has done it in Europe, will be entrusted with the Squad and Club approach for the next ten years. This needs to be built from the ground up.

Obvious names are Ancellotti, Guardiola or Klopp. They've all built at big clubs Milan, Barca and Dortmund respectively. You could throw Simeone into this also but his fiery nature may not be that of choice for the owners.

Squad is another job, we have to make big decisions on players due to FFP. I'd take the fine and blow the budget but that's me. I think we have big decisions on Yaya, Kompany, Silva, Fernandinho, Dzeko and Aguero. Yaya and Silva are probably at the right time to move on to get the most money, anytime after this we will get buttons. The money could be invested to get the right players in.

The new coach would have to be in place to spend this money and get rid of players, we have a good squad now but it is unbalanced and doesn't fit Pellegrini's style. This is no good.

Suggestions out
Sagna
Kolorov
Boyata
Fernando
Fernandinho
Yaya
Silva (and I love him - but Barca may part with £40m for him)
Milner
Lampard
Dzeko
Jovetic

Youth Players in
Denayer
Angelino
Lopes
Zucellini

Our biggest issue without doubt is midfield, we need energy, pace and creativity. We have currently 1 of those elements.

Big job for the Club, I don't want Mansour to lose interest but this is a big project and I think the last two seasons transfers have harmed the club more than helped them and I'd put Bony in that bracket already.

Barca can't buy....just a minor issue with your plan, which btw is to sell 90% of the entire fucking first team, you goofball.

cheers

[Nigels Tackle]

Evolution not Revolution for me (both as principle and cos of FFP).

Need a top class midfielder, at least one new fullback and some pace further forward.

Totally agree, I am not one for Revolution usually, but the age of our squad means we need to make quite a few changes in the next couple of years.

the players are clearly revolting (on many levels) so nothing wrong with the fans wanting a revolution
vinny and yaya the marquee names out for me
add the balkan spastics to the list along with the brazillian goons and i'll be a happy man

[Hazy2]

Milner deciding to string us along is also a sign of the type characters we have at the club, are taking the piss, which has him wanting out.

[nottsblue]

Interesting comments. Agree that we need a squad overhaul. This however, should be done as a matter of course every year. Replacing men in key positions every few years keeps things fresh. Silva, Toure and Nasri have been here four seasons now. This is now biting us IMO. We are stale and maybe the old adage 'familiarity breeds contempt' is part of this?

Realistically, we are not going to see six or seven changes in the summer. For one, they are mostly on good contracts only recently signed and the resale values mean that with constraints of FFP we may not be able to afford to buy that many players. Fernandinho and Yaya are 30+. Silva and Zabba and Kompany are approaching 30. Clubs are not going to fork out huge sums for these guys.

I am 100% behind the call for more of our youth to be integrated into the first team next year. Again, realistically, with the way this season has gone and the dreadful lack of chances given to youth, can anyone seriously count on next season being any different? When the pressure is on to deliver silverware the natural reaction of the manager, whomever that shall be, is to play with experience and not to trust youth, certainly not more than one or two starting berths at the most.

Next seasons first eleven and back up for me would be

Hart, Caballero
Zabba, Maffeo
Mangala, Denayer
Kompany, MDM
Clichy, New left back
Silva, Lopes
Fernandinho, Milner
Reus, Barker
Pogba or,Naingollan
Aguero, Cole
Bony, Jovetic

This means ta-ra to Sagna, Lampard, Dzeko, Fernando, Kolarov, Yaya, Nasri. Be surprised if we managed to shift all those in one summer so a few may stay by default but maybe with a different attitude knowing they will be shipped out if they don't deliver.
The likes of Zuchellini, Ihenacho etc will be part of the squad. I very much doubt it will pan out this way but there you go. I do think we are at a disadvantage to Chelsea when it comes to signing players as the lure of London cannot be underestimated. Would Messi really choose Manchester over London, or perhaps more pertinently, would the wives and girlfriends be happy? Can't see us signing more than two top players, though to be honest I'd be well chuffed with Pogba and Reus and the rest made up of academy players.

[Mase]

Basically.

Kolarov
Dzeko
Fernando
Ferna
Toure
Milner
Jovetic

Can do one for me we need to rebuild the midfield and sign a new left back.

Kolarov? Are you taking the piss!!?

[lets all have a disco]

Top class players CAN be found for smaller fees you just have to know what the fuck you are doing in the transfer market.

[lets all have a disco]

Basically.

Kolarov
Dzeko
Fernando
Ferna
Toure
Milner
Jovetic

Can do one for me we need to rebuild the midfield and sign a new left back.

Kolarov? Are you taking the piss!!?

To be fair he does model t-shirts well and does look pretty hard.

Shame he can fucking pass or defend though.

[Mase]

Basically.

Kolarov
Dzeko
Fernando
Ferna
Toure
Milner
Jovetic

Can do one for me we need to rebuild the midfield and sign a new left back.

Kolarov? Are you taking the piss!!?

To be fair he does model t-shirts well and does look pretty hard.

Shame he can fucking pass or defend though.

He's the best player we have followed by Serg.

[Ted Hughes]

We need to find alternatives to Silva, Yaya, & Nasri. They are sometimes our strength but also our biggest weakness. It has been proven this season imo.

By all accounts, we have money to spend. I have no problem with those 3 staying but I would like to see 3 alternatives. All not just good footballers but fast & full of energy. Solve that & the rest, including the manager, will work imo.

I want to see a City 11 where none of those 3 start & we don't miss them. Then, imo we have cracked it.

[Hazy2]

Clear out No, clear understanding of what playing for this club means. Mancini was sacked for losing the squad. Something was always hooky about that packaged up as a lack of harmony. What is it now? The manager seems very clear on what he thinks.

[sheblue]

Fuck this pile of bullshit.
Sell this lad sell that, sack the manager, spend a trillion. bollocks.
Don't pay any of them until they show some balls and fucking do what they are paid to do.

[Ted Hughes]

Clear out No, clear understanding of what playing for this club means. Mancini was sacked for losing the squad. Something was always hooky about that packaged up as a lack of harmony. What is it now? The manager seems very clear on what he thinks.

A clear out won't win us the title but it may make sure we don't get in the Champions League.

We have to do this sensibly & calmly.

I would be happy to spend 5 years building a team from young players, but the fans & the Sheikh won't. We can swap a few players but we have to be careful we don't end up like Spurs.

[Hazy2]

Nothing is that broken last year Bayern got beat, sorry massacred by madrid , no panic, I happen to think the players cannot be allowed to go under the radar this time. The silence from the captain I feel say's something. Mancini was a dead man walking, snippets from the same rag journo 's had us convinced the poor players were scared for their lives under such a tyrant, Rotherham same cunts slagging us week in week out !. Well that load of shite dressed up this time as it was to laxed will not wash if it starts. They have great chance Wed to get the season ending on a run, if not then maybe the dog can wag the tail, and we weed out the wankers and reset the rest on the right way to represent the best club. No player should be safe if we finish out if the T4

[Hazy2]

Nothing is that broken last year Bayern got beat, sorry massacred by madrid , no panic, I happen to think the players cannot be allowed to go under the radar this time. The silence from the captain I feel say's something. Mancini was a dead man walking, snippets from the same rag journo 's had us convinced the poor players were scared for their lives under such a tyrant, Rotherham same cunts slagging us week in week out !. Well that load of shite dressed up this time as it was to laxed will not wash if it starts. They have great chance Wed to get the season ending on a run, if not then maybe the dog can wag the tail, and we weed out the wankers and reset the rest on the right way to represent the best club. No player should be safe if we finish out if the T4

Rotherham is this predictive spelling, also the FA cup loss to Wigan still to this day has me raging The Cunts have previous.....

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Nothing is that broken last year Bayern got beat, sorry massacred by madrid , no panic, I happen to think the players cannot be allowed to go under the radar this time. The silence from the captain I feel say's something. Mancini was a dead man walking, snippets from the same rag journo 's had us convinced the poor players were scared for their lives under such a tyrant, Rotherham same cunts slagging us week in week out !. Well that load of shite dressed up this time as it was to laxed will not wash if it starts. They have great chance Wed to get the season ending on a run, if not then maybe the dog can wag the tail, and we weed out the wankers and reset the rest on the right way to represent the best club. No player should be safe if we finish out if the T4

Rotherham is this predictive spelling, also the FA cup loss to Wigan still to this day has me raging The Cunts have previous.....

I spent 5 hours on the fucking motorway (roadworks) coming back from that fiasco. I haven't forgotten it, either.