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Postby mr_nool » Sat May 02, 2015 3:14 pm

I was speaking to the financial director of a Dutch first division team today. I'm not saying that he is more clued up than the rest of us, but he was 100% certain that the Louis deal was a below the table arrangement between Abrahmovich and Quasar in order to increase Chelsea's transfer kitty.
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat May 02, 2015 3:17 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
phips wrote:
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phips wrote:interesting. because other papers say today that Pogba has no interest in PSG and City and that he's likely headed to Barca.


If he is willing to wait a year, Barca & Real Madrid become favourites to sign him.

Barca could just buy him and loan him back to Juve and thus not break their transfer ban

No they couldn't as they are not allowed to sign anybody.

They are they're just not allowed to play them.

So, they've got a transfer ban that only disallows them from playing players?

Sounds about right!
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat May 02, 2015 3:26 pm

phips wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
phips wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
phips wrote:interesting. because other papers say today that Pogba has no interest in PSG and City and that he's likely headed to Barca.


If he is willing to wait a year, Barca & Real Madrid become favourites to sign him.

Barca could just buy him and loan him back to Juve and thus not break their transfer ban

No they couldn't as they are not allowed to sign anybody.

actually, from what I've read, that's not true. no new signings can be part of the first team is what i've read. thus, buying a player and loaning them back would circumvent this ban.


Where did you read this?
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat May 02, 2015 3:29 pm

mr_nool wrote:I was speaking to the financial director of a Dutch first division team today. I'm not saying that he is more clued up than the rest of us, but he was 100% certain that the Louis deal was a below the table arrangement between Abrahmovich and Quasar in order to increase Chelsea's transfer kitty.


I've always had this suspicion but why would PSG blow their whole kitty in terms of what UEFA can see on one player?

Why would they agree to this with Chelsea instead of buying him for fair market value and having enough left over to go for Yaya who according to a lot of a City fans they wanted last summer?
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sat May 02, 2015 3:31 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:So, they've got a transfer ban that only disallows them from playing players?

Sounds about right!

I think the wording is that they can't 'register' players.
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat May 02, 2015 3:43 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:So, they've got a transfer ban that only disallows them from playing players?

Sounds about right!

I think the wording is that they can't 'register' players.

Wouldn't that be normal? If they cannot register players then they can't loan them out.

I thought Barca's situation was that they could sell who they want as a ban on transfers out would go against EU law for those who aren't getting a game whereas incoming is a different matter as earmarked players have other options.
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby phips » Sat May 02, 2015 3:49 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
phips wrote:actually, from what I've read, that's not true. no new signings can be part of the first team is what i've read. thus, buying a player and loaning them back would circumvent this ban.

Where did you read this?

it was back during the Jan transfer window. no idea what site it was.
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sat May 02, 2015 3:55 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:So, they've got a transfer ban that only disallows them from playing players?

Sounds about right!

I think the wording is that they can't 'register' players.

Wouldn't that be normal? If they cannot register players then they can't loan them out.

I thought Barca's situation was that they could sell who they want as a ban on transfers out would go against EU law for those who aren't getting a game whereas incoming is a different matter as earmarked players have other options.

Maybe a ban on both buying and selling is against EU law but UEFA get them on registration. I'm not an expert but a couple of people I know say this is the case.
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat May 02, 2015 4:27 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:So, they've got a transfer ban that only disallows them from playing players?

Sounds about right!

I think the wording is that they can't 'register' players.

Wouldn't that be normal? If they cannot register players then they can't loan them out.

I thought Barca's situation was that they could sell who they want as a ban on transfers out would go against EU law for those who aren't getting a game whereas incoming is a different matter as earmarked players have other options.

Maybe a ban on both buying and selling is against EU law but UEFA get them on registration. I'm not an expert but a couple of people I know say this is the case.

I think we agree, it's on registration and if they cannot register then they cannot loan them out.

Bit of a piss-take though, putting the ban in-place and allowing the ban to be opened just at the right time for them to get players in. One could be under the impression that this was staged!
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sat May 02, 2015 4:29 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:So, they've got a transfer ban that only disallows them from playing players?

Sounds about right!

I think the wording is that they can't 'register' players.

Wouldn't that be normal? If they cannot register players then they can't loan them out.

I thought Barca's situation was that they could sell who they want as a ban on transfers out would go against EU law for those who aren't getting a game whereas incoming is a different matter as earmarked players have other options.

Maybe a ban on both buying and selling is against EU law but UEFA get them on registration. I'm not an expert but a couple of people I know say this is the case.

I think we agree, it's on registration and if they cannot register then they cannot loan them out.

Bit of a piss-take though, putting the ban in-place and allowing the ban to be opened just at the right time for them to get players in. One could be under the impression that this was staged!

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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby nottsblue » Sat May 02, 2015 4:50 pm

So if Juventus have allegedly accepted €80m, then we have a starting point. More likely that PSG have no real interest in the player and they are in collusion with Juventus to drive up the price for Barca/Real/City/Chavs to have to pay.

PSG then sign another player from Juventus for a cheaper price or Juventus then buy a PSG player with the extra funds they have coaxed out of Pogbas buyer.

Either way, it stinks of corruption and duplicity
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby mr_nool » Sat May 02, 2015 5:00 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
mr_nool wrote:I was speaking to the financial director of a Dutch first division team today. I'm not saying that he is more clued up than the rest of us, but he was 100% certain that the Louis deal was a below the table arrangement between Abrahmovich and Quasar in order to increase Chelsea's transfer kitty.


I've always had this suspicion but why would PSG blow their whole kitty in terms of what UEFA can see on one player?

Why would they agree to this with Chelsea instead of buying him for fair market value and having enough left over to go for Yaya who according to a lot of a City fans they wanted last summer?


He sort of implied that the money under the table was more for the personal benefit of the the Quatari involved.
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby mr_nool » Sat May 02, 2015 5:00 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
mr_nool wrote:I was speaking to the financial director of a Dutch first division team today. I'm not saying that he is more clued up than the rest of us, but he was 100% certain that the Louis deal was a below the table arrangement between Abrahmovich and Quasar in order to increase Chelsea's transfer kitty.


I've always had this suspicion but why would PSG blow their whole kitty in terms of what UEFA can see on one player?

Why would they agree to this with Chelsea instead of buying him for fair market value and having enough left over to go for Yaya who according to a lot of a City fans they wanted last summer?


He sort of implied that the money under the table was more for the personal benefit of the the Quatari involved.
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby Dameerto » Sat May 02, 2015 6:25 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
mr_nool wrote:I was speaking to the financial director of a Dutch first division team today. I'm not saying that he is more clued up than the rest of us, but he was 100% certain that the Louis deal was a below the table arrangement between Abrahmovich and Quasar in order to increase Chelsea's transfer kitty.


I've always had this suspicion but why would PSG blow their whole kitty in terms of what UEFA can see on one player?

Why would they agree to this with Chelsea instead of buying him for fair market value and having enough left over to go for Yaya who according to a lot of a City fans they wanted last summer?


He sort of implied that the money under the table was more for the personal benefit of the the Quatari involved.

He still has links to Gazprom (which sponsors the Champion's League) - as well as fingers in various other pies via his asset managing Company - I'm sure he knows several ways of returning a favour to one or more Qatari people if he was ever in a position where he needed to.
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby JamieMCFC » Sat May 02, 2015 7:17 pm

FIFA say, although it would go against the spirit of the ruling, there is nothing to stop the Catalans from talking to potential targets or clubs - or even purchasing players - this summer as long as those new recruits are not registered before January 2016.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... r-say-fifa
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Re: Juventus had accepted the 80 mil offer for Pogba from PS

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat May 02, 2015 8:12 pm

JamieMCFC wrote:FIFA say, although it would go against the spirit of the ruling, there is nothing to stop the Catalans from talking to potential targets or clubs - or even purchasing players - this summer as long as those new recruits are not registered before January 2016.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... r-say-fifa

Spirit, what the fuck has that got to do with it? They can buy who the fuck they want but it won't matter in the least if they can't register them.
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