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Re: Pellegrini

Postby PrezIke » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:25 pm

He's focused on goals more clearly given how far up the pitch we push our fullbacks and the overall high line we play.

His first season was how he wants us to play. Problem is we have struggled with injuries to so many key players I suspect he feels frustrated they are rarely fit to see how his style can work because it is clearly contingent upon having high quality players at every position.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:55 pm

PrezIke wrote:He's focused on goals more clearly given how far up the pitch we push our fullbacks and the overall high line we play.

His first season was how he wants us to play. Problem is we have struggled with injuries to so many key players I suspect he feels frustrated they are rarely fit to see how his style can work because it is clearly contingent upon having high quality players at every position.


A great manager works with what he has and we have a fantastic squad , with or without injuries.Pellegrini was found out ages ago,his defense is a fuckign shambles and he cannot get it right......if he had bought well then we wouldnt be harping on about fuckign Kompany all the time , he bought shit shit and more shit, hence all the top teams have more or less fucked us over this season...thats his fuckign fault!!!

I will be glad to see the back of him.....and don't get me started in Caballero being in the team tomorrow....makes my blood boil.

Fucking Leicester have won....9 points ahead of us....DISGUSTING.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby PrezIke » Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:14 pm

I hear you, carl. In fairness to Manuel, issues with one of your lightning rods this season, Yaya, and the loss of Komps leadership via his injuries has affected the team's performance.

Mangala has not turned out as hoped, Willy perhaps better as a regular but poor as a backup, yet Nico has shown more when with a less nervy partner, KDB a great buy, and Sterling quite good so far with potential as well. Navas has been more than decent at both ends although sometimes too one dimensional, MDM more valuable than expected (especially much of last season) and Sagna and Delph bargain buys who have helped us win games this. Fernando when fit has done well yet has also hurt us, and Fernandinho arguably our best buy/player over the past 3 seasons and become a fan favourite.

I'm ready to move on as well, but I do think he has had more challenges to his plan with injuries to the spine of the team than most top clubs' squads, other than maybe Arsenal. It has been a wildly frustrating ride the past two seasons, I agree, but we also saw some of the same problems in Mancini's last season with some of the same players, and the PL has become more competitive top to bottom.

Should he have developed a better plan B earlier on? That's a good question, but we also don't exactly have a squad full of high work rate players nor are some who are the leaders/best players of/on the team (Yaya, Silva) either. It will change this summer and I think most of the criticisms will be directly addressed, as can already be evidenced by the hiring of Pep.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby phips » Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:55 pm

the bizarre thing is that he bit the bullet and played for a draw at Old Trafford. if we nicked a goal from a set piece, great. but he set up for 0-0 in that one due to injuries. afterwards he said he hated it but guess what, it gave us a valuable point at that stage of the season given everything. had he stuck to his guns and done the high line with fullbacks flying up and pressing for goals we might've lost and gotten zero points.

that ties in to what Carl is screaming. you have to adapt given your squad and injuries (obviously its hard to do so sometimes with only a week to prepare between matches most of the time). i've been lamenting Pellegrini's stubbornness since his first season. it really is a flaw.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby South Stand Balti » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:02 pm

Whatever you say about Pellers, there is only an ameteur would set up as we did at home to the dippers. We were poor at this point last season as he refused to play an extra body in midfield. He finally relented as we were slipping out of the top four. Fat Frank was brought in for the last 6 games and guess what? We won them all. I have seen Mangala play for Porto and he was nothing short of hapless. He wasn't always in the first team there. Willy was always erratic at Malaga. It's hard to imagine with the squad we had a couple of years ago, and the investment made since, that we could have regressed so far. I can't wait for him to fuck off. He's a nice man, dignified and considered. He has been unlucky with injuries but he is not the sharpest tool in the box. Willy's selection tomorrow is beyond negligence.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:14 pm

South Stand Balti wrote:Whatever you say about Pellers, there is only an ameteur would set up as we did at home to the dippers. We were poor at this point last season as he refused to play an extra body in midfield. He finally relented as we were slipping out of the top four. Fat Frank was brought in for the last 6 games and guess what? We won them all. I have seen Mangala play for Porto and he was nothing short of hapless. He wasn't always in the first team there. Willy was always erratic at Malaga. It's hard to imagine with the squad we had a couple of years ago, and the investment made since, that we could have regressed so far. I can't wait for him to fuck off. He's a nice man, dignified and considered. He has been unlucky with injuries but he is not the sharpest tool in the box. Willy's selection tomorrow is beyond negligence.


When did you see Mangala at Porto? He was always a regular and was voted in the Europa League team of the year the season before signing for us, he also captained Porto while he was there.

To suggest that a manager that brought Villareal to a CL semi final is amateur is utter nonsense.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby blues2win » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:18 pm

Congratulations to Leicester for their magnificent season so far. If they win the League good luck to them; they'll have earned it. Having said that Pellegrini has a far better squad to work with and we should have many more points than we have so far. This will be a big black mark against Pellegrini if he fails to win the League title. We really should be winning it with something to spare.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:21 pm

We really should be winning it with something to spare.


But why should we be winning it? We should stand a good chance of winning it yes, but why should we win it? I don't get that.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby nottsblue » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:29 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
We really should be winning it with something to spare.


But why should we be winning it? We should stand a good chance of winning it yes, but why should we win it? I don't get that.

To be fair, the squad we have and the start we made, we should not be 9 points behind Leicester, albeit with a game in hand
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:50 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:Whatever you say about Pellers, there is only an ameteur would set up as we did at home to the dippers. We were poor at this point last season as he refused to play an extra body in midfield. He finally relented as we were slipping out of the top four. Fat Frank was brought in for the last 6 games and guess what? We won them all. I have seen Mangala play for Porto and he was nothing short of hapless. He wasn't always in the first team there. Willy was always erratic at Malaga. It's hard to imagine with the squad we had a couple of years ago, and the investment made since, that we could have regressed so far. I can't wait for him to fuck off. He's a nice man, dignified and considered. He has been unlucky with injuries but he is not the sharpest tool in the box. Willy's selection tomorrow is beyond negligence.


When did you see Mangala at Porto? He was always a regular and was voted in the Europa League team of the year the season before signing for us, he also captained Porto while he was there.

To suggest that a manager that brought Villareal to a CL semi final is amateur is utter nonsense.


Read what hes saying , something that you find hard to fucking do on various posts.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby South Stand Balti » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:01 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:Whatever you say about Pellers, there is only an ameteur would set up as we did at home to the dippers. We were poor at this point last season as he refused to play an extra body in midfield. He finally relented as we were slipping out of the top four. Fat Frank was brought in for the last 6 games and guess what? We won them all. I have seen Mangala play for Porto and he was nothing short of hapless. He wasn't always in the first team there. Willy was always erratic at Malaga. It's hard to imagine with the squad we had a couple of years ago, and the investment made since, that we could have regressed so far. I can't wait for him to fuck off. He's a nice man, dignified and considered. He has been unlucky with injuries but he is not the sharpest tool in the box. Willy's selection tomorrow is beyond negligence.


When did you see Mangala at Porto? He was always a regular and was voted in the Europa League team of the year the season before signing for us, he also captained Porto while he was there.

To suggest that a manager that brought Villareal to a CL semi final is amateur is utter nonsense.

Mangala was at Porto for 3 years and only started 50 games in all comps. They weren't convinced. as he was on the bench around 40 times. I watched him at Estoril and Sevilla. The game with Sevilla (2nd leg I think) was really disturbing. His final season at Porto was very inconsistent.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:32 pm

South Stand Balti wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:Whatever you say about Pellers, there is only an ameteur would set up as we did at home to the dippers. We were poor at this point last season as he refused to play an extra body in midfield. He finally relented as we were slipping out of the top four. Fat Frank was brought in for the last 6 games and guess what? We won them all. I have seen Mangala play for Porto and he was nothing short of hapless. He wasn't always in the first team there. Willy was always erratic at Malaga. It's hard to imagine with the squad we had a couple of years ago, and the investment made since, that we could have regressed so far. I can't wait for him to fuck off. He's a nice man, dignified and considered. He has been unlucky with injuries but he is not the sharpest tool in the box. Willy's selection tomorrow is beyond negligence.


When did you see Mangala at Porto? He was always a regular and was voted in the Europa League team of the year the season before signing for us, he also captained Porto while he was there.

To suggest that a manager that brought Villareal to a CL semi final is amateur is utter nonsense.

Mangala was at Porto for 3 years and only started 50 games in all comps. They weren't convinced. as he was on the bench around 40 times. I watched him at Estoril and Sevilla. The game with Sevilla (2nd leg I think) was really disturbing. His final season at Porto was very inconsistent.


He started 41 in his last season alone with Porto so I don't know where you're getting your figures from.

The game with Sevilla you're talking about saw him as the only regular of the back four playing as the rest were suspended or injured, Fernando was also suspended in that one. It was inevitable they would get a hiding.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:34 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:Whatever you say about Pellers, there is only an ameteur would set up as we did at home to the dippers. We were poor at this point last season as he refused to play an extra body in midfield. He finally relented as we were slipping out of the top four. Fat Frank was brought in for the last 6 games and guess what? We won them all. I have seen Mangala play for Porto and he was nothing short of hapless. He wasn't always in the first team there. Willy was always erratic at Malaga. It's hard to imagine with the squad we had a couple of years ago, and the investment made since, that we could have regressed so far. I can't wait for him to fuck off. He's a nice man, dignified and considered. He has been unlucky with injuries but he is not the sharpest tool in the box. Willy's selection tomorrow is beyond negligence.


When did you see Mangala at Porto? He was always a regular and was voted in the Europa League team of the year the season before signing for us, he also captained Porto while he was there.

To suggest that a manager that brought Villareal to a CL semi final is amateur is utter nonsense.


Read what hes saying , something that you find hard to fucking do on various posts.


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Re: Pellegrini

Postby South Stand Balti » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:59 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:Whatever you say about Pellers, there is only an ameteur would set up as we did at home to the dippers. We were poor at this point last season as he refused to play an extra body in midfield. He finally relented as we were slipping out of the top four. Fat Frank was brought in for the last 6 games and guess what? We won them all. I have seen Mangala play for Porto and he was nothing short of hapless. He wasn't always in the first team there. Willy was always erratic at Malaga. It's hard to imagine with the squad we had a couple of years ago, and the investment made since, that we could have regressed so far. I can't wait for him to fuck off. He's a nice man, dignified and considered. He has been unlucky with injuries but he is not the sharpest tool in the box. Willy's selection tomorrow is beyond negligence.


When did you see Mangala at Porto? He was always a regular and was voted in the Europa League team of the year the season before signing for us, he also captained Porto while he was there.

To suggest that a manager that brought Villareal to a CL semi final is amateur is utter nonsense.

Mangala was at Porto for 3 years and only started 50 games in all comps. They weren't convinced. as he was on the bench around 40 times. I watched him at Estoril and Sevilla. The game with Sevilla (2nd leg I think) was really disturbing. His final season at Porto was very inconsistent.


He started 41 in his last season alone with Porto so I don't know where you're getting your figures from.

The game with Sevilla you're talking about saw him as the only regular of the back four playing as the rest were suspended or injured, Fernando was also suspended in that one. It was inevitable they would get a hiding.

You don't need to make excuses for his bad performances. He isn't good enough. Fernando played in front of him against the dippers this season and he still played like a dog chasing a balloon.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:02 pm

I'm not making excuses, I'm just telling you how it was, I watched all their Europa games that season and a few other league games and your description of him couldn't be more wrong.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:48 pm

Pellers is a mule at times and tomorrow is a game we need our A team, Mangala has not adapted to the Prem. Been injured and is again not am A teaser for me.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby iwasthere2012 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:00 pm

Hazy2 wrote:Pellers is a mule at times and tomorrow is a game we need our A team, Mangala has not adapted to the Prem. Been injured and is again not am A teaser for me.

Sorry! Who's a teaser?
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby Spurge » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:27 am

What makes people so certain that mangala, ottamendi, sterling, kdb or indeed any signings during his tenure are solely down to pellegrini? Do we not think the barca boys upstairs have any input? Those who think signings are down to pellers alone are deluded.
Big Willy I suspect was largely pellegrini's signing and to be fair is a poor one. Not sure why we needed to let pantillimon go. But even that signing would have had to be sanctioned by the barca boys.
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby iwasthere2012 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:51 am

Spurge wrote:What makes people so certain that mangala, ottamendi, sterling, kdb or indeed any signings during his tenure are solely down to pellegrini? Do we not think the barca boys upstairs have any input? Those who think signings are down to pellers alone are deluded.
Big Willy I suspect was largely pellegrini's signing and to be fair is a poor one. Not sure why we needed to let pantillimon go. But even that signing would have had to be sanctioned by the barca boys.

Was it not a case of Pants wanting to go?
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Re: Pellegrini

Postby DoomMerchant » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:21 am

The Count is an undead cunt and if he loses tomorrow he needs a gaping the likes of which i haven't seen on a porn site in years.

He's fucking remarkable playing this assclown Slippy Willy in goal. I'd fucking fire the cunt just for that this season.

I cannot fucking wait until this undead cunt fucks off. No joke.

Thanks Count. Fuck off.

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