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Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:42 pm

I hope this pile of shit never plays for us again.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Lees Alter Ego » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:34 am

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I hope this pile of shit never plays for us again.


Havent posted on here for a while but comments like this blow my mind.

Please explain. I completely baffles me how anyone could come to such a conclusion.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby s1ty m » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:28 am

Si the Lion wrote:Willy will do ok its the 2 playing directly in front that worry me. We have 4 senior centre backs 1 world class but always injured and 3 that are shite. We do have a Belgian kid(Denayer) loaned out though who won awards playing for Celtic last year. Work that one out???? Smells like Pellegrini.


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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:50 pm

Lees Alter Ego wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I hope this pile of shit never plays for us again.


Havent posted on here for a while but comments like this blow my mind.

Please explain. I completely baffles me how anyone could come to such a conclusion.

Because he's brainless, as yesterday's reason for him injuring himself shows. Almost everything he does is poor apart from shot-stopping (and that doesn't include shots from the edge of the area to his bottom lefthand corner, a la Liverpool away this season when he failed to save what was ostensibly a back-pass). But he gets a free pass because of he 'loves' the club. If we could get Neuer (with whom we've been linked with this season), the upgrade would be stratospheric (I know the odds aren't great on that happening).
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby dave watson's perm » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:54 pm

Can you imagine the grief we would get for dumping England's No.1?
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:56 pm

dave watson's perm wrote:Can you imagine the grief we would get for dumping England's No.1?

There would be questions in Parliament, no doubt.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:57 pm

I reckon Angus Gunn could do just as good a job, I have been nothing but impressed with him when I have seen him.The U18s keeper (Grimshaw) has unreal distribution, very confident, like an outfield player who has been told he is in goals today. He is not the biggest though, unlike Gunn who is HUGE.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:59 pm

Wonderwall wrote:I reckon Angus Gunn could do just as good a job, I have been nothing but impressed with him when I have seen him.The U18s keeper (Grimshaw) has unreal distribution, very confident, like an outfield player who has been told he is in goals today. He is not the biggest though, unlike Gunn who is HUGE.

Not seen Gunn live but only heard good things about him.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby iwasthere2012 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:16 pm

Wonderwall wrote:I reckon Angus Gunn could do just as good a job, I have been nothing but impressed with him when I have seen him.The U18s keeper (Grimshaw) has unreal distribution, very confident, like an outfield player who has been told he is in goals today. He is not the biggest though, unlike Gunn who is HUGE.


I've liked what little I've seen of Gunn and actually thought he had a real chance of making the CL squad this year, but I must have been dreaming.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Lees Alter Ego » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:53 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Lees Alter Ego wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I hope this pile of shit never plays for us again.


Havent posted on here for a while but comments like this blow my mind.

Please explain. I completely baffles me how anyone could come to such a conclusion.

Because he's brainless, as yesterday's reason for him injuring himself shows. Almost everything he does is poor apart from shot-stopping (and that doesn't include shots from the edge of the area to his bottom lefthand corner, a la Liverpool away this season when he failed to save what was ostensibly a back-pass). But he gets a free pass because of he 'loves' the club. If we could get Neuer (with whom we've been linked with this season), the upgrade would be stratospheric (I know the odds aren't great on that happening).


How was yesterdays injury to do with him. It was Martins fault for playing him a hospital ball in literal terms. I am not saying Hart is the best keeper around, but I think hes not far off. His distribution is imo his weakest element. His shot stopping is decent and I think he is tremendous at 1 on 1s (although didn't happen for him yesterday). He has made some errors but equally he has at time single handedly kept us in games (the performance at Barca was ridiculously good).

But to say you never want him to play for us again is utterly ridiculous imo.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Scatman » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:40 pm

Lees Alter Ego wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Lees Alter Ego wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I hope this pile of shit never plays for us again.


Havent posted on here for a while but comments like this blow my mind.

Please explain. I completely baffles me how anyone could come to such a conclusion.

Because he's brainless, as yesterday's reason for him injuring himself shows. Almost everything he does is poor apart from shot-stopping (and that doesn't include shots from the edge of the area to his bottom lefthand corner, a la Liverpool away this season when he failed to save what was ostensibly a back-pass). But he gets a free pass because of he 'loves' the club. If we could get Neuer (with whom we've been linked with this season), the upgrade would be stratospheric (I know the odds aren't great on that happening).


How was yesterdays injury to do with him. It was Martins fault for playing him a hospital ball in literal terms. I am not saying Hart is the best keeper around, but I think hes not far off. His distribution is imo his weakest element. His shot stopping is decent and I think he is tremendous at 1 on 1s (although didn't happen for him yesterday). He has made some errors but equally he has at time single handedly kept us in games (the performance at Barca was ridiculously good).

But to say you never want him to play for us again is utterly ridiculous imo.


If he had a brain he wouldn't have given it to Martin in the first place. The same thing had happened about 5 minutes earlier: he gave it Martin, nobody from midfield dropped back to take it off Martin, their 9 chased Martin down, Martin had nothing he could do other than give it Hart who had nothing to do other than what he should have done 5 seconds earlier and booted it upfield. Only this time Martin fucked up and Hart did his leg in.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:47 pm

Scatman wrote:
Lees Alter Ego wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Lees Alter Ego wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I hope this pile of shit never plays for us again.


Havent posted on here for a while but comments like this blow my mind.

Please explain. I completely baffles me how anyone could come to such a conclusion.

Because he's brainless, as yesterday's reason for him injuring himself shows. Almost everything he does is poor apart from shot-stopping (and that doesn't include shots from the edge of the area to his bottom lefthand corner, a la Liverpool away this season when he failed to save what was ostensibly a back-pass). But he gets a free pass because of he 'loves' the club. If we could get Neuer (with whom we've been linked with this season), the upgrade would be stratospheric (I know the odds aren't great on that happening).


How was yesterdays injury to do with him. It was Martins fault for playing him a hospital ball in literal terms. I am not saying Hart is the best keeper around, but I think hes not far off. His distribution is imo his weakest element. His shot stopping is decent and I think he is tremendous at 1 on 1s (although didn't happen for him yesterday). He has made some errors but equally he has at time single handedly kept us in games (the performance at Barca was ridiculously good).

But to say you never want him to play for us again is utterly ridiculous imo.


If he had a brain he wouldn't have given it to Martin in the first place. The same thing had happened about 5 minutes earlier: he gave it Martin, nobody from midfield dropped back to take it off Martin, their 9 chased Martin down, Martin had nothing he could do other than give it Hart who had nothing to do other than what he should have done 5 seconds earlier and booted it upfield. Only this time Martin fucked up and Hart did his leg in.



Hart gave the ball to MDM and immediately ran backwards to his goal line, MDM didnt see that and if Hart had stayed where he was it would have been much easier for him. Just one of those things, poor awareness.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby nottsblue » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:21 pm

Scatman wrote:
Lees Alter Ego wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Lees Alter Ego wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I hope this pile of shit never plays for us again.


Havent posted on here for a while but comments like this blow my mind.

Please explain. I completely baffles me how anyone could come to such a conclusion.

Because he's brainless, as yesterday's reason for him injuring himself shows. Almost everything he does is poor apart from shot-stopping (and that doesn't include shots from the edge of the area to his bottom lefthand corner, a la Liverpool away this season when he failed to save what was ostensibly a back-pass). But he gets a free pass because of he 'loves' the club. If we could get Neuer (with whom we've been linked with this season), the upgrade would be stratospheric (I know the odds aren't great on that happening).


How was yesterdays injury to do with him. It was Martins fault for playing him a hospital ball in literal terms. I am not saying Hart is the best keeper around, but I think hes not far off. His distribution is imo his weakest element. His shot stopping is decent and I think he is tremendous at 1 on 1s (although didn't happen for him yesterday). He has made some errors but equally he has at time single handedly kept us in games (the performance at Barca was ridiculously good).

But to say you never want him to play for us again is utterly ridiculous imo.


If he had a brain he wouldn't have given it to Martin in the first place. The same thing had happened about 5 minutes earlier: he gave it Martin, nobody from midfield dropped back to take it off Martin, their 9 chased Martin down, Martin had nothing he could do other than give it Hart who had nothing to do other than what he should have done 5 seconds earlier and booted it upfield. Only this time Martin fucked up and Hart did his leg in.

I agree. If the only outlet for the goalie to pass to has a man on, then don't pass to him. Kick it upfield. Bollock the fullback for not being available. Whatever. Just don't give it to a guy with a man on him and not expect it back.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Socrates » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:51 am

nottsblue wrote:
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nottsblue wrote:Anyone know the prognosis yet? Fingers crossed it's minor otherwise we are in trouble re PL

Notts mate we are in trouble in the prem whether or not.

I have already half resigned myself to us not being in CL next season. I'm just a very pessimistic half empty glass guy. I'm thinking without Hart, the confidence might drain further from the team and we might slump further still and miss out on Europa. Before we say great, shit competition, think how that might affect the transfer dealings that are in the pipeline already and those to be determined. Players want European football and Pep alone is not a big enough draw I don't think.

That's not to say Caballero will suddenly start to concede lots and I don't think he will. Its more of a psychological issue, rather like Kompany being out. The stats say that when Kompany plays we win more and concede less than when he doesn't. This then filters down to the players who are on the back foot before they have started. We have to play both Ferns as cover which limits our attacking options which in turn leads to more pressure on the defence as we don't attack as much. Catch 22. Hart is a big influence on and off the pitch.


Did I imagine us winning the League Cup three and a half weeks ago or did it really happen? If it really happened then we already qualified for the Europa League!
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:02 am

Interesting to see Buffon pick Hart as his keeper in his best PL XI.

Oh and it seems the injury is not too serious, reports suggesting City are hopeful he'll be fit for Paris.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Hazy2 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:35 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Interesting to see Buffon pick Hart as his keeper in his best PL XI.

Oh and it seems the injury is not too serious, reports suggesting City are hopeful he'll be fit for Paris.


Surprise surprise,,,,,Soft cunt, who brought it on himself.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Moonchesteri » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:48 am

Socrates wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
gillie wrote:
nottsblue wrote:Anyone know the prognosis yet? Fingers crossed it's minor otherwise we are in trouble re PL

Notts mate we are in trouble in the prem whether or not.

I have already half resigned myself to us not being in CL next season. I'm just a very pessimistic half empty glass guy. I'm thinking without Hart, the confidence might drain further from the team and we might slump further still and miss out on Europa. Before we say great, shit competition, think how that might affect the transfer dealings that are in the pipeline already and those to be determined. Players want European football and Pep alone is not a big enough draw I don't think.

That's not to say Caballero will suddenly start to concede lots and I don't think he will. Its more of a psychological issue, rather like Kompany being out. The stats say that when Kompany plays we win more and concede less than when he doesn't. This then filters down to the players who are on the back foot before they have started. We have to play both Ferns as cover which limits our attacking options which in turn leads to more pressure on the defence as we don't attack as much. Catch 22. Hart is a big influence on and off the pitch.


Did I imagine us winning the League Cup three and a half weeks ago or did it really happen? If it really happened then we already qualified for the Europa League!


Is that a fact? Does the winner of LC go to Europa Lge?

And how about the winner of FA Cup?
And any prices for runner-ups?

I've forgotten how these rules go these days.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:57 am

Moonchesteri wrote:
Socrates wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
gillie wrote:
nottsblue wrote:Anyone know the prognosis yet? Fingers crossed it's minor otherwise we are in trouble re PL

Notts mate we are in trouble in the prem whether or not.

I have already half resigned myself to us not being in CL next season. I'm just a very pessimistic half empty glass guy. I'm thinking without Hart, the confidence might drain further from the team and we might slump further still and miss out on Europa. Before we say great, shit competition, think how that might affect the transfer dealings that are in the pipeline already and those to be determined. Players want European football and Pep alone is not a big enough draw I don't think.

That's not to say Caballero will suddenly start to concede lots and I don't think he will. Its more of a psychological issue, rather like Kompany being out. The stats say that when Kompany plays we win more and concede less than when he doesn't. This then filters down to the players who are on the back foot before they have started. We have to play both Ferns as cover which limits our attacking options which in turn leads to more pressure on the defence as we don't attack as much. Catch 22. Hart is a big influence on and off the pitch.


Did I imagine us winning the League Cup three and a half weeks ago or did it really happen? If it really happened then we already qualified for the Europa League!


Is that a fact? Does the winner of LC go to Europa Lge?

And how about the winner of FA Cup?
And any prices for runner-ups?

I've forgotten how these rules go these days.


Winner of League cup goes into Europa, if we qualify top 4, then it goes to an extra league position so 5th and 6th will qualify.
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Moonchesteri » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:01 am

Wonderwall wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:
Socrates wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
gillie wrote:Notts mate we are in trouble in the prem whether or not.

I have already half resigned myself to us not being in CL next season. I'm just a very pessimistic half empty glass guy. I'm thinking without Hart, the confidence might drain further from the team and we might slump further still and miss out on Europa. Before we say great, shit competition, think how that might affect the transfer dealings that are in the pipeline already and those to be determined. Players want European football and Pep alone is not a big enough draw I don't think.

That's not to say Caballero will suddenly start to concede lots and I don't think he will. Its more of a psychological issue, rather like Kompany being out. The stats say that when Kompany plays we win more and concede less than when he doesn't. This then filters down to the players who are on the back foot before they have started. We have to play both Ferns as cover which limits our attacking options which in turn leads to more pressure on the defence as we don't attack as much. Catch 22. Hart is a big influence on and off the pitch.


Did I imagine us winning the League Cup three and a half weeks ago or did it really happen? If it really happened then we already qualified for the Europa League!


Is that a fact? Does the winner of LC go to Europa Lge?

And how about the winner of FA Cup?
And any prices for runner-ups?

I've forgotten how these rules go these days.


Winner of League cup goes into Europa, if we qualify top 4, then it goes to an extra league position so 5th and 6th will qualify.


Thanks mate. How about the FA Cup?
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Re: Hart, how serious is it?

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:04 am

Moonchesteri wrote:Thanks mate. How about the FA Cup?


I thought it was the other way around for the FA Cup, i thought the runner up got the place, but thats not the case.

The winner of the FA Cup earns automatic qualification to the 2015–16 UEFA Europa League group stages. However, as Arsenal qualified for the UEFA Champions League via their league position, Southampton, the highest placed team in the 2014–15 Premier League not already Europe-qualified took this Europa League place.


So it was 5, 6, 7 in the league last season and WHU via fair play
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