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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby mr_nool » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:54 pm

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dick dastardley wrote:Fucking hell that Chelsea goal shouldn't have stood he elbowed the defender big time almost knocked his head off

that was an awful fall. worse than the flailing arm. wasnt able to brace himself and fell flat on his back with his head hitting the ground too. awful.

note: everyone on NBCSN (arlo white, lee dixon, and graeme le saux + plus all analysts in studio) believe that it wasnt a foul on Alonso.


The Dutch commentators didn't think it was a foul either.

I disagree. If that had happened in the middle of the pitch, it would have been a freekick and a card.
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby mr_nool » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:55 pm

If Hasard had rolled another revolution or two he might have been able to bump that up to a red.
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby dick dastardley » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:58 pm

Be nice to poach Sanchez from arseholenal
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Woodyblue » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:58 pm

IF Arsenal can scrape a win today and IF we win all our remaining games we would then need Chelsea to drop four more points and the Spuds to drop one point for us to win the league. I know I'm an optimist but it's doable.
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby dick dastardley » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:01 pm

Ozil the invisible man again!!
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Saul Goodman » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:02 pm

dick dastardley wrote:Be nice to poach Sanchez from arseholenal

Very spoiled and petulant guy but amazing player
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Slim » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:06 pm

A foul does not require intent to be called.

It was a forearm to the head before the ball was played, it's a foul.
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Slim » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:08 pm

Fucking hell Gabriel, he's damaging the brand with that header.
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby bigblue » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:09 pm

1. ratboy is right that arsenal never really challenge or pressure the ball. All I can think is they must have pretty lax training sessions and just carry it over to the game.

2. For as invisible as ozil is, you can tell he hates playing with walcott because all theo has is pace. Too thick to make the right runs and a terrible touch as well
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:23 pm

If we'd scored that header we'd see nothing wrong with it.
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby john@staustell » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:25 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:If we'd scored that header we'd see nothing wrong with it.


If we'd scored that it would've been disallowed no doubt
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:25 pm

Woodyblue wrote:IF Arsenal can scrape a win today and IF we win all our remaining games we would then need Chelsea to drop four more points and the Spuds to drop one point for us to win the league. I know I'm an optimist but it's doable.

Optomist Woody? More like a crazy fool.

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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Saul Goodman » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:26 pm

Slim wrote:A foul does not require intent to be called.

It was a forearm to the head before the ball was played, it's a foul.

For me its less clear. Human beings use their arms to aid their jump. It was a natural movement. He didnt wildly swing his arms and didnt flail with intent to hit Alonso. So, so much looks terrible in slow-mo and on replay. Thats why its almost impossible for major sports to include replay of fouls/potential fouls.

Atkinson is out there watching it in real time so im not at all surprised by or disappointed with his decision
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:26 pm

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Foreverinbluedreams wrote:If we'd scored that header we'd see nothing wrong with it.


If we'd scored that it would've been disallowed no doubt


Probably but wrongly imo
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:28 pm

Slim wrote:A foul does not require intent to be called.

It was a forearm to the head before the ball was played, it's a foul.

You make a good point as without that elbow Bellerophon would've probably got the ball.

Not worth complaining though, this is the season where it's all about the goals, even if they are yards offside!
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby bigblue » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:28 pm

john@staustell wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:If we'd scored that header we'd see nothing wrong with it.


If we'd scored that it would've been disallowed no doubt


If we'd scored that they'd be talking about violent assault, how the challenge could have paralyzed him, and extended bans
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Slim » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:33 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:
Slim wrote:A foul does not require intent to be called.

It was a forearm to the head before the ball was played, it's a foul.

For me its less clear. Human beings use their arms to aid their jump. It was a natural movement. He didnt wildly swing his arms and didnt flail with intent to hit Alonso. So, so much looks terrible in slow-mo and on replay. Thats why its almost impossible for major sports to include replay of fouls/potential fouls.

Atkinson is out there watching it in real time so im not at all surprised by or disappointed with his decision


I don't care about natural movement, or flailing arms. Sometimes it's a foul when you don't really do anything wrong.

However to simplify it. Bellarin had front position and jumped for the ball, Alonso jumped over his back. Anywhere else on the pitch, that's a foul.
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:36 pm

bigblue wrote:
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Foreverinbluedreams wrote:If we'd scored that header we'd see nothing wrong with it.


If we'd scored that it would've been disallowed no doubt


If we'd scored that they'd be talking about violent assault, how the challenge could have paralyzed him, and extended bans

We'd have been persecuted through the media before having every player associated with the club receiving retrospective bans from the FA.
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby bigblue » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:40 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
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john@staustell wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:If we'd scored that header we'd see nothing wrong with it.


If we'd scored that it would've been disallowed no doubt


If we'd scored that they'd be talking about violent assault, how the challenge could have paralyzed him, and extended bans

We'd have been persecuted through the media before having every player associated with the club receiving retrospective bans from the FA.


The fact that since Fern got his red card, we've had at least one tackle just like his against us per game get a yellow or unpunished proves there's 2 sets of rules. And the media are more than complicit, they're the instigators
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Re: This Weeks Other Games l 4-5 Feb 17

Postby Saul Goodman » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:42 pm

What a goal
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