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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:14 pm

Kiss_The_Goat wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Bluez wrote:
Socrates wrote:
bluexile wrote:Whatever happened to consistency?....18 m0nths is not time to build a dynasty.........God help us!!!!


To get consistency (stability perhaps a better word?) you need the right appointment first. To build a dynasty you need the right appointment first. If Pearce had still been in charge when the takeover had happened how long would youhave given him to prove whether he could step up or not?

What should we expect from Mancini? No one seems to have answered the OP yet. You seem to know the most abouit him, so what will he do?


His philosophy is simple; build a team - defenders are there to defend, midfielders are there to open up the opposition, forwards are there to score goals, or, when they are not scoring goals, to help the team score goals.


Do you know Mancini personally Soc? Or at least read his autobiography? You seem to be a Roberto Mancini expert?


it's for crap like this no one bothered answering original post.

Man is one of the brightest young managers in Europe and has managed one of the biggest clubs in the world with huge success. And some make it sound like we just appointed him from Barnet.
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Fidel Castro » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:16 pm

Socrates wrote:
Bluez wrote:
Socrates wrote:
bluexile wrote:Whatever happened to consistency?....18 m0nths is not time to build a dynasty.........God help us!!!!


To get consistency (stability perhaps a better word?) you need the right appointment first. To build a dynasty you need the right appointment first. If Pearce had still been in charge when the takeover had happened how long would youhave given him to prove whether he could step up or not?

What should we expect from Mancini? No one seems to have answered the OP yet. You seem to know the most abouit him, so what will he do?


His philosophy is simple; build a team - defenders are there to defend, midfielders are there to open up the opposition, forwards are there to score goals, or, when they are not scoring goals, to help the team score goals.


I like that formation too
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Fish111 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:17 pm

bluexile wrote:Whatever happened to consistency?....18 m0nths is not time to build a dynasty.........God help us!!!!


Have all 4 of your posts been as equally enlightening & interesting? You must be a goth.
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby edge275 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:19 pm

Socrates wrote:
bobadji wrote:Does anyone actually know the answer? What formation does he favour? Is he like Mourinho where he has a system and tries to force players into it, or does he base it on the personel available? Attacking, free flowing football, or 1-0 wins? ta


4-3-1-2. Inter scored more than 2 goals a game on average so not 1-0s.


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Something like this?
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Kiss_The_Goat » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:19 pm

His philosophy is simple; build a team - defenders are there to defend, midfielders are there to open up the opposition, forwards are there to score goals, or, when they are not scoring goals, to help the team score goals.[/quote]

Do you know Mancini personally Soc? Or at least read his autobiography? You seem to be a Roberto Mancini expert?[/quote]

it's for crap like this no one bothered answering original post.

Man is one of the brightest young managers in Europe and has managed one of the biggest clubs in the world with huge success. And some make it sound like we just appointed him from Barnet.[/quote][/quote]

I happen to think he's a good appointment, all things considered. I just find comments like... defenders are there to defend, midfielders are there to open up the opposition, forwards are there to score goals, or, when they are not scoring goals, to help the team score goals
absolutely fucking hilarious. Football is such a simple game hey?
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Socrates » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:21 pm

Kiss_The_Goat wrote:
I happen to think he's a good appointment, all things considered. I just find comments like... defenders are there to defend, midfielders are there to open up the opposition, forwards are there to score goals, or, when they are not scoring goals, to help the team score goals
absolutely fucking hilarious. Football is such a simple game hey?


Somebody asked for his philosophy,,,
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby dario2739 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:24 pm

I think his theme tune to the Pink Panther is brilliant.
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby bobadji » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:12 pm

Socrates wrote:
bobadji wrote:Does anyone actually know the answer? What formation does he favour? Is he like Mourinho where he has a system and tries to force players into it, or does he base it on the personel available? Attacking, free flowing football, or 1-0 wins? ta


4-3-1-2. Inter scored more than 2 goals a game on average so not 1-0s.


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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby edge275 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:18 pm

He's good in the transfer market. He signed such players as:

Maxwell, Maicon, Chivu, Balotelli, Ibrahimovic
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby pears12 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:24 pm

I looking forward to watching mancini, but tbf 2 of his leagues titles at inter were because Juventus got done for match-fixing and then subsequently relegated to serie B in which time he just went and bought Juventus's star players like zlatan and vieira and since then serie a hasn't been the most competitive league it seems like inter can win it with a small amount of effort..

But he won titles with lazio and I can't argue with that
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby edge275 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:44 pm

Mourinho won the league with 84 points last year. Mancini won the year before with 85 points.
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Nick » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:49 pm

I actually wanted mancini instead of hughes before we got him. That was largely due to a massive hype that generated on this very board that made me buy into him. Although Ousmane Dabo was also a similar story :-)




Another thing I thought about is the fitness and sports science aspect that MH has brought to the club. Bellamy is in the form and fitness of his life. Lets hope mancini does not let this drop.

Also, watch the game back. How pissed off was stevie today?!
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Bluez » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:52 pm

pears12 wrote:I looking forward to watching mancini, but tbf 2 of his leagues titles at inter were because Juventus got done for match-fixing and then subsequently relegated to serie B in which time he just went and bought Juventus's star players like zlatan and vieira and since then serie a hasn't been the most competitive league it seems like inter can win it with a small amount of effort..

But he won titles with lazio and I can't argue with that

Not as a manager, so maybe you can argue with that
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Lee_Kinda » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:49 pm

Bluez wrote:
pears12 wrote:I looking forward to watching mancini, but tbf 2 of his leagues titles at inter were because Juventus got done for match-fixing and then subsequently relegated to serie B in which time he just went and bought Juventus's star players like zlatan and vieira and since then serie a hasn't been the most competitive league it seems like inter can win it with a small amount of effort..

But he won titles with lazio and I can't argue with that

Not as a manager, so maybe you can argue with that


?? Yes he did, he won the Italian cup thingy?
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Lee_Kinda » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:51 pm

Just found this >>
Who is new Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini?
Roberto Mancini may remain an unknown quantity to many in England, but the Italian’s pedigree is such that few candidates to replace Mark Hughes have a more appropriate background to handle the unique pressures on offer at Manchester City.

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As a player, Mancini made his name as an intelligent, urbane playmaker, primarily at Sampdoria, the Genovese club where he spent 15 years. It was Mancini’s prolific partnership with Gianluca Vialli which earned the club their first ever Serie A title in 1991 and brought them to the brink of the 1992 European Cup, only losing to Barcelona in the final at Wembley.
Sampdoria failed to build on that success, though, and Mancini left the club to join big-spending Lazio in 1997, winning the scudetto under Sven-Goran Eriksson in 2000 before moving to Leicester for six months in January 2001 as his playing career drew to a close.

His move into management was blissfully smooth, although his first job was anything but. Fiorentina, mired in financial strife, won the Coppa Italia under his tenure in 2001, but could not offer him the resources to build a squad capable of challenging the established powers of Italian football.
Much the same problem beset him for two years as coach of Lazio. Whereas Mancini had played for the Roman side at a time when Sergio Cragnotti, the dairy magnate, was bankrolling Eriksson’s expenditure on a succession of stars.
His own experience as coach, despite winning a second Coppa Italia in 2004, could not have been more contrasting.

Indeed, it was not until Massimo Moratti handed him control of Inter Milan’s blank chequebook in the summer of 2004 that Mancini had the finances to match his ambition.
Inter are, perhaps, the closest facsimile in world football to the City Mancini is expected to arrive at today. Money is no object for Moratti, but the oil tycoon has found satisfaction harder to come by than, in recent years, trophies. Inter have spent more than any other club in Europe under his guidance, but it was not until Mancini arrived that they won a title.
Will he have time to do the same at Manchester City?



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... ncini.html
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Wonderwall » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:58 pm

10.Goater_Legend wrote:
nickson71 wrote:This is what an inter fan who posts on the other place had to say about the appointment of Mancini

Congrats guys, I'm a HUGE mancini fan.

Been following him since he started he's managerial career in italy. Not a single year past by with him that he didn't win a trophy. HE IS A WINNER.

People (in here) say that he plays a boring football but that is simply not true. With lazio the team played an attacking very compatitive football and he won the coppa italia.

I'm pretty certain that he'll be a success in england. He's a great man manager and knows how to motivate he's players. Personaly i "always" rated him higher than Mourinho. You will like him nodoubt.....

The thing about Mancini that i like is that he always create a winning team out of an "un-winning" teams. When he took over the Lazio job, lazio back then were a team that was struggling soo much with their debts and couldn't sign decent players but he turned that team into a winning team with a very compatitive attitude.

The players played their hearts out and he made some un-known players into a known stars (atleast demosticaly) players like Pandev, manfredini and others. Like i said I'm a fan of the guy and the work that he's done over in Inter and looking back at the Inter that he created i can easilly see a better team than the one that mourinho is creating right now.

Have faith in the guy and you won't regret it....

Encouraging.

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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Wonderwall » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:00 am

Socrates wrote:His philosophy is simple; build a team - defenders are there to defend, midfielders are there to open up the opposition, forwards are there to score goals, or, when they are not scoring goals, to help the team score goals.


FANFUCKINGTASTIC WOW and I mean WOW!
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Lee_Kinda » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:01 am

Wonderwall wrote:
Socrates wrote:His philosophy is simple; build a team - defenders are there to defend, midfielders are there to open up the opposition, forwards are there to score goals, or, when they are not scoring goals, to help the team score goals.


FANFUCKINGTASTIC WOW and I mean WOW!


Your on form this evening wonderwall. FUNNY and I mean FUNNY!
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby Wonderwall » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:02 am

edge275 wrote:
LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:He won't be given enough time to implement what he wants to do anyway.


Yes he will. He is Khaldoon's man.



another fucking expert!

YES HE IS KHALDOONS MAN!

how many men has khaldoon chosen? How many trophy's have they won? What is khaldoons track record on his appointments?
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Re: What can we expect from Mancini then?

Postby 10.Goater_Legend » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:03 am

I want to know it Mancini plays a holding midfielder in the system he deploys, I would hate to think that de Jong and Kompany could be frozen out.
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